Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Craig "Killtown" Lazo's Ongoing Witchhunt of Val McClatchey

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Lazo has an entire blog of over 80 posts dedicated to casting aspersions on Val McClatchey, or the photograph she took on September 11th, or both.  Plus wild speculation that McClatchey is running a fake charity.  In short, the kind of lies and bullshit Lazo excels at.

While the blog is titled:  "Flight 93 Photo Fraud", Lazo was careful to keep the url tame> http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/

Though someone took advantage of Lazo's restraint and set up a spoof blog in 2009:

http://flight93photofraud.blogspot.com/

Moderate lulz can be had, with a heavy side of link decay.

"Flight 93 Photo Fraud" has archives dating back to 2000, but this is retcon faggotry since Lazo's "killtown" blogspot account has only been around since 2005:

Since no blog archives exist for 2005, it's safe to assume the real archives start at 2006.

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Called out for Harassment at Loose Change Forums

Much lolz can be had at the expense of Loose Change,>ED LINK, but once in a while they come up from the tin foil flotsam with something sane:

Let's Publicly Comdemn This Harrassment

Title: Let's Publicly Comdemn This Harrassment

seanm - September 11, 2007 05:58 PM (GMT)
Picture Made on 9/11 Takes a Toll on Photographer

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/us/10cnd-shanksville.html?
QUOTE
“Every time I’ve done any stories it goes online and all these conspiracy theorists start up and they call me and harass me,” said Mrs. McClatchey, 51, who runs her own real estate company.

In numerous online postings, critics have ripped apart every element of the photo, and Mrs. McClatchey’s life. They accuse her of faking the photo, of profiteering from it and of being part of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that Flight 93 was shot down by the government.

They claim the mushroom cloud is from an ordnance blast, not a jet crashing; the cloud is the wrong color for burning jet fuel; the cloud is too small and in the wrong position.

They’ve posted her personal e-mail, phone numbers and street address online. One Canadian “9/11 debunker” surreptitiously taped a phone conversation with her, quizzing her about the photo, and then uploaded it to his Web site.


This kind of behavior is intolerable. Let's publicly condemn anyone harassing Mrs. McClatchey.
Rossmancer - September 11, 2007 07:26 PM (GMT)
Lol, out of all the 911 problems, this is the least relevant. Let's leave old ladies alone.
Powerhouse - September 11, 2007 07:37 PM (GMT)
If you read any of Killtown's crap about the photo, it's quite clear that he is not in touch with reality. Somehow, he determined that the smoke plume is about 600 feet across. Given that premise, you can show that the plume is way too close to the camera to be from the crash site. But he never details how he arrived at the premise, he just asserts it.

Personally, I think Killtown is insane.
Lazo's insanity on this so called issue is obvious to anyone with brains, which did not include his then gf Wynhausen, who starts spamming the thread disingenuously:

Jennifer - September 14, 2007 02:34 AM (GMT)
How has Killtown harassed her?
Jennifer - September 14, 2007 08:10 PM (GMT)
AGAIN, how is she being harassed? Should we stop harassing people like Larry Silverstein?

Oliver - September 14, 2007 08:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 14 2007, 08:10 PM)
AGAIN, how is she being harassed? Should we stop harassing people like Larry Silverstein?

Killtown accused her of being involved in the cover-up.
But all she did was to take a photo of the plume. That's all.

And if I would know you a little bit better - I probably wouldn't
think that you already sound like Killtown himself... :P [/kidding]
Patches O'Houlihan - September 14, 2007 08:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 14 2007, 03:10 PM)
AGAIN, how is she being harassed? Should we stop harassing people like Larry Silverstein?

Yes.

Jennifer - September 15, 2007 02:21 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Oliver @ Sep 14 2007, 03:17 PM)
Killtown accused her of being involved in the cover-up.
But all she did was to take a photo of the plume. That's all.

And if I would know you a little bit better - I probably wouldn't
think that you already sound like Killtown himself... :P [/kidding]

That's all... really? And what cover up are you referring to?

Clearly this photo is falsified, which at the very least indicates that she was complicit in a crime. So, I would expect her to be involved in the cover up of that crime, so how is that harassment? Is it harassment, questioning whether or not the photo is real? Or is questioning her motives, financial or otherwise harassment? This woman has clearly profited off of 911. Look at the skank, the evolution of her appearance (the photo on the right is the more recent photo):

And I don't quite understand what you mean... I sound like Killtown? Because I question this photo as well? Or because I stand up for other truthers, are you going to call me Terrorcell next?

Maybe I should ask you what you are trying to cover up. Do you think the photo is real?
Then Wynhausen goes off the rails when she's told to leave the "sneaky jews" alone:
Jennifer - September 15, 2007 02:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Patches O'Houlihan @ Sep 14 2007, 03:38 PM)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 14 2007, 03:10 PM)
AGAIN, how is she being harassed?  Should we stop harassing people like Larry Silverstein?

Yes.

Stop harassing Silverstein, are you serious?

So, AGAIN, how is she being harassed???
Oliver - September 15, 2007 10:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 15 2007, 02:21 AM)
SNIP
Well, the point is that even if the Photo wouldn't be authentic,
she surely didn't shoot down Flight 93 herself - and it's just a
matter of Belief if you think the Photo is real or not.

But most importantly - you don't spread the wildest rumors
and accusations about other people just because you would
love to see a conspiracy in her photo - especially if you are
not willing to be mature enough to say who you are. That's
the case with Killtown - hiding behind his computer instead
making this accusations publicly with his own full name, so
this case could be settled within a suit which would clarify
if the Photo is real or not.

Everything else is a cowardice Witch hunt.

Anyway: If you like to know how she was harassed, you can
read more about it here:

http://news.google.com/news?source=ig&hl=e...tnG=Search+News
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Killt...ing&btnG=Search

Hierosis - September 15, 2007 11:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 15 2007, 02:21 AM)
SNIP
 The photo is not CLEARLY a fake.

You don't know this woman. Perhaps her appearance changed because she knew that second photo would be run with nation-wide circulation prior to talking it?

Jennifer - September 15, 2007 11:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Oliver @ Sep 15 2007, 05:45 AM)
Well, the point is that even if the Photo wouldn't be authentic,
she surely didn't shoot down Flight 93 herself - and it's just a
matter of Belief if you think the Photo is real or not.

But most importantly - you don't spread the wildest rumors
and accusations about other people just because you would
love to see a conspiracy in her photo - especially if you are
not willing to be mature enough to say who you are. That's
the case with Killtown - hiding behind his computer instead
making this accusations publicly with his own full name, so
this case could be settled within a suit which would clarify
if the Photo is real or not.

Everything else is a cowardice Witch hunt.

Anyway: If you like to know how she was harassed, you can
read more about it here:

http://news.google.com/news?source=ig&hl=e...tnG=Search+News
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Killt...ing&btnG=Search

REALLY... I thought she had shot down Flight 93.

I read what Killtown wrote about the photo, actually read it. That's what people do when they are genuinely interested in learning or uncovering the truth, they read all of the information and make an objective decision on what is plausible and what is not. It seems possible to me that the photo is altered, perhaps not by "Stooge," herself, rather by the FBI. Why would 3 FBI agents show up at her house within a half an hour, confiscate her camera and her memory card? I thought they had also taken her hard drive as well.

Thanks for the links. I see how Mrs. McClatchey talks about being harassed, however I have yet to see where Killtown found her private, personal information and published it for every conspiracy theorist to start harassing her. I have seen where she, herself, posts her personal information in order to for people to order copies of "The End of Serenity."

http://www.shanksvillememorial.com/endofserenity.html

And as far as Killtown being anonymous or otherwise it makes no difference. You bringing this up is irrelevant to the evidence of the photo itself. You, and other skeptics like you, bring this up in order to smear him. The more you all attack legitimate truthers like him, the more I want to defend them.
 Readers can bet Lazo and Wynhausen were busting their guts over the people they had fooled when she was typing this.

Oliver - September 15, 2007 11:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 15 2007, 11:01 PM)
And as far as Killtown being anonymous or otherwise it makes no difference. You bringing this up is irrelevant to the evidence of the photo itself. You, and other skeptics like you, bring this up in order to smear him. The more you all attack legitimate truthers like him, the more I want to defend them.

I don't know about the Laws in the US, but stalking is a crime here
in Germany. And no - no one would "smear" Killtown if he wouldn't
attack her anonymously - which is indeed the behavior of a Coward
because this why we have courts: He has evidence? Fine - sue her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking
Jennifer - September 16, 2007 12:05 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Oliver @ Sep 15 2007, 06:54 PM)
I don't know about the Laws in the US, but stalking is a crime here
in Germany. And no - no one would "smear" Killtown if he wouldn't
attack her anonymously - which is indeed the behavior of a Coward
because this why we have courts: He has evidence? Fine - sue her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking

Again, how has he attacked her? And stalking her... come on, how is calling into question the authenticity of her photo stalking her? If he is stalking her in some other way, please feel free to elaborate.

Can you tell me again why three FBI agents would show up at her house and confiscate her camera and memory card? Oh yeah, you never did answer that question.

Infadel - September 16, 2007 12:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 15 2007, 07:05 PM)
Can you tell me again why three FBI agents would show up at her house and confiscate her camera and memory card? Oh yeah, you never did answer that question.

Because it is evidence related to one of the greatest crimes committed on U.S. soil. It's much more useful in the hands of the FBI than it is in Val's hands. Wouldn't you agree?

Jennifer - September 16, 2007 12:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Infadel @ Sep 15 2007, 07:18 PM)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 15 2007, 07:05 PM)
Can you tell me again why three FBI agents would show up at her house and confiscate her camera and memory card?  Oh yeah, you never did answer that question.

Because it is evidence related to one of the greatest crimes committed on U.S. soil. It's much more useful in the hands of the FBI than it is in Val's hands. Wouldn't you agree?

You are correct, so correct in fact that I'm surprised they didn't send in the SWAT team to storm her house for that photo. I mean be damned if that photo fell into the wrong hands.
 Blondes shouldn't attempt humor.
One interesting thing in the thread: this image of a check written to McClatchey, apparently by Terrorcell:

Terrorcell - September 14, 2007 05:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (seanm @ Sep 11 2007, 06:12 PM)
QUOTE (seeker135 @ Sep 11 2007, 01:09 PM)
Do you know the background on this story?  She told people she was not going to profit from the picture, but accepts checks made out to her business and to herself.

I would be interested in the source of that claim.

The image url is >  http://bp1.blogger.com/_LYmohCjnTj0/Rc68rGJ5k1I/AAAAAAAAAEs/UXlehLtN3iI/s320/cleared-check-front.jpg

Making it the same image at Lazo's blog here:
http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/02/val-and-honor-system.html

Lazo writes:
I have also wondered how many people who went to the website that advertises Val’s photo where it says to write checks out to the Beamer Foundation accidentally goofed and wrote their check out in Val’s name and still got a print, so to test out this theory, I had someone “accidentally” write out a check in Val's name.
That someone is probably "Terrorcell".  "Terrorcell" and "Killtown"...of course they're fwiends.

But the weirdest twist are the comments by Lazo's new best friend at Let's Roll'em Forums, the administrator Phil Jayhan...who isn't very impressed with Lazo:


Phil Jayhan - September 11, 2007 07:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (seanm @ Sep 11 2007, 05:58 PM)
Picture Made on 9/11 Takes a Toll on Photographer

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/us/10cnd-shanksville.html?

QUOTE
SNIP


This kind of behavior is intolerable. Let's publicly condemn anyone harassing Mrs. McClatchey.

I guess this gives a whole new meaning to the words "Killtown" :P :P :P :P

I really think everyone needs to give this poor lady a rest. She doesn't deserve any of this kind of shit unless someone can prove something other than "theory" or "conjecture & speculation."

Does anyone here have her email address? If so, please PM it to me and after 9/11 settles I will send her an email apologizing to her and telling her that most 911 people are totally against this kind of harassment. And think we should all do the same. It would go a long way towards having her not hating all 911 people and clumping us together with "Killtown."

cheers-
phil :)
And:

Phil Jayhan - September 11, 2007 07:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rossmancer @ Sep 11 2007, 07:26 PM)
Lol, out of all the 911 problems, this is the least relevant. Let's leave old ladies alone.

Funny thing just came to mind here guys. It was this same group of people that did this same exact thing to Ellen Marianni. They hounded her and hounded her, put her email, phone # and all that other stuff up online and harassed her relentlessly. Anyone remember that?

It was this same exact group of people that did it too, the no planes, no brains people.

Just something to think about here. And whoever Killtown now is on this forum (username) you can bet your ass he will show up in this thread. Just watch for him/her. I guarantee they will show up if he hasn't already.

They should all truly be ashamed of themselves.

cheers-
phil :)
And:
Phil Jayhan - September 15, 2007 11:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hierosis @ Sep 15 2007, 11:03 AM)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 15 2007, 02:21 AM)
SNIP
The photo is clearly not a fake. As Hierosis said. Gosh, what part of leave this woman alone don't they understand? To take her # and personal information and place it on the net so she can be harassed is the thing the lowest lowlife in the world would do.

Lowlifes. It is about one of two things. Either they so need the limelight, and thus their own smoking gun, real or manufactured, or these people are lowlife scum provocateurs. Here only to disrupt 911. Is all the fricking people do is argue about their nonsense. What a joke!
Will Jayhan slap down Lazo if he dredges up this "nonsense" at Let's Roll Forums?   If so, you know it'll be posted here,lol.

A nice zinger on the subject via JREF:
 I don't believe it!!

For this to be real we'd have to believe that:

A ) Killtown has friends.
B ) Killtown has friends that can write
and
C ) Killtown has friends with checking accounts that have more than $20 in them?

I, for one, call shenanigans.


Yet even greater lulz on the subject of McClatchey's photo can be had visiting Lazo's latest blog on McClatchey,

September 09, 2011

"McClatchey ready to put disputed photograph in the past" - Daily American

Comments about this article below.

McClatchey ready to put disputed photograph in the past

September 9, 2011

following the main link Lazo published:
http://www.dailyamerican.com/da-ot-mcclatchey-ready-to-put-disputed-photograph-in-the-past-20110909,0,3182174.story

And read the comments:

itsalama at 4:47 PM January 09, 2012 "Killtown" is a loser called Craig Lazo who was part of a group of conspiracy con artists in Portland Oregon before moving back to California. Even 9/11 "truthers" don't take him seriously anymore.
http://emailsfromeegits.blogspot.com/
citizen joe at 6:27 PM September 10, 2011 I've read this "KillTown"'s blog posts.  His evidence is extremely weak, and conflicting.  He has no coherent theory of what happened, but just grasps at straws to try to cast doubt on what others have said who don't share his conspiracy theories. 
It is of course theoretically possible that the government had some sinister role in some way, but I have yet to see any solid evidence to support it.
Lazo's talent for raining "foot-bullets" knows no bounds.

ouch


Still flogging lies with Kelly Leverknight fraud at Let's Roll Forums

Though Lazo has generally backed off his more extreme accusations(that McClatchey runs/ran a fake charity), he continues to insist the photogragh she took is fake.  One of the few places Lazo can still spread this shit besides his blogs is the backwater conspiracy forum Let's Roll.

As recently as Oct 2012 Lazo writes:

 4 Oct 2012 , 21:38 PM   #343
 Re: Do you really know the official Shanksville story?
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvaDestruction
We know from the picture taken by the lady nearby that some sort of explosion happened
All indication is that photo is a fake.

http://flight93photo.blogspot.com


Ms. Leverknight:
"It was a fake photo, because it didn't have a mushroom cloud."
__________________
killtown.blogspot.com

A search for >>>  Ms. Leverknight fake photo
has the usual conspiracytarded results, heavy with links to Lazo's own blog(s).  Lazo started a thread at Above Top Secret forums, posting at ATH911, heavily linking to his Killtown imageshack account(also here)(which has since been made private lol):
How was there even an explosion at Shanksville (officially speaking)?, 

ATS Members have flagged this thread 10 times
Topic started on 17-9-2011 @ 02:52 PM by ATH911 Before you start spouting ridicule at this notion, remember we are supposed to be basing things off the official story.

There was supposedly a large explosion when UA93 supposedly crashed in the grassy Shanksville field. It supposedly burned a section of the forest next to the crater and formed a huge mushroom cloud that was allegedly photographed by Val McClatchey in a single photo before "dropping her camera" and this large grey plane crash smoke cloud (grey?) was recently "confirmed" by the newly released Dave Berkebile smoke cloud video that the media supposedly "wasn't interested in" right after 9/11.
 Lazo even modfags like usual, forgetting he's not a mod:
reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 03:10 PM by ATH911
reply to post by kn0wh0w


Please start a new thread on that topic.

Keep this thread about the alleged ground explosion.


A couple comments later Lazo gets around to the subject of using Leverknight as "proof":
reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 04:46 PM by ATH911
What else could have possibly produced the smoke that looks like the aftermath of an explosion on the site that we were told a plane just crashed? Did they set off some smoke grenades or something? 
 Here might be an answer:
 Jeff: Val McClatchey... she has a famous photo.
Ms. Leverknight: It was a fake photo, because it didn't have a mushroom cloud.
Jeff: It what?
Ms. Leverknight: There was no mushroom cloud.
Jeff: So it was a fake photo?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.
Jeff: Her photo's faked?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.
Jeff: For what? For money?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.
Jeff: Why, do you know that for sure?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah!

It doesn't even make conspiracy retarded sense.  Claiming it's a fake photo for money doesn't answer the question of what produced smoke. Derp.  It's just Lazo grasping at any straw to continue his witchhunt.   The link of course goes to Lazo's photo fraud blog, where he scribbles:

March 27, 2007


Shanksville resident says Val McClatchey's photo is fake! 

Jeffrey Hill (a.k.a. "Shure") from Pumpitout.com in Canada calls Shanksville resident Kelly Leverknight, who was one of the witnesses who reportedly saw Flight 93 in the air before it allegedly crashed, and speaks to a lady claiming to be Kelly’s daughter*. Jeff asks this lady on the phone about Val’s Flight 93 plume photo.

Jeff: Val McClatchey... she has a famous photo.
Ms. Leverknight: It was a fake photo, because it didn't have a mushroom cloud.
Jeff: It what?
Ms. Leverknight: There was no mushroom cloud.
Jeff: So it was a fake photo?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.
Jeff: Her photo's faked?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.
Jeff: For what? For money?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.
Jeff: Why, do you know that for sure?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah!


 Listening to the phone call, it's not Leverknight at all, but her daughter.  Lazo tries to spin this in a footnote on his blog:
 (*The lady on the phone suspected to be Kelly.)
Suspected by who?  Lazo and his paranoid consiracytards.  Highlights from the entire phone call put this so called suspicion to rest:


Jeff:Some of it was really weird...like there was no plane at all...that it was actually shot down by the NORAD or whatever.

Leverknight's daughter: and that's a bunch of bullshit!  the plane was never shot down...it was hijacked by terrorists. 
Jeff:yeah and then it crashed in that field right?
Leverknight's daughter:Yes
Jeff:that's what i 'm thinkin...yknow...and then I'm hearing all this other stuff like "oh it wasn't there"  and it was spread out and they found parts of it in some lake or something that..

Leverknight's daughter:Yes...?

Jeff:and then I don't know...was there like forest fires all over the place when it crashed?

Leverknight's daughter:It crashed in a field ...there were no forest fires...

Jeff:so there were no forest fires or anything?

Leverknight's daughter:No.
Jeff:and this guy wally miller I guess he was the coroner and he said theire were no bodies and no debris or anything...he said said like the area it went down it was like the plane just vanished or something...it was just weird...I don't know...
Leverknight's daughter:There was debris.  A plane crashed...what are you...of course there's going to be debris

Jeff:that's what I'm thinking every time you see a plane crash you'd see parts of a plane all over the place.  

Leverknight's daughter:wow
Jeff:and they even said that photo that famous photo from some lady uh it's got the like smoke cloud or whatever... they even said that supposedly that's even a fake photo  and all this stuff like and the smoke plume doesn't line up where it should?  I don't know that's weird...Val McClatchey, that's it.  She has a famous photo or something

Leverknight's daughter:it was a fake photo because it didn't have a mushroom cloud

Jeff:it wha?
Leverknight's daughter:there was no mushroom cloud
Jeff:so it was a fake photo?
Leverknight's daughter:yeah.  < <first "yeah" sounds real.
Jeff:her photo's faked?
Leverknight's daughter:yeah << sounds like duplicate of first.  tampered audio file?
Jeff:for what? Money?  << Leading question
Leverknight's daughter:yeah<< sounds like duplicate of first.  tampered audio file?

Jeff:why do you know that for sure?
Leverknight's daughter:yeah<< sounds like duplicate of first.  tampered audio file?
Jeff:like do you live in shanksville or something?
Leverknight's daughter:yeah
Jeff:oh you do!
Leverknight's daughter:yeah.
Jeff:oh so you were right there too! So you must have seen and known everything too!
Leverknight's daughter:I was at school
Jeff:Oh so like are you Kelly's sister or something
Leverknight's daughter:I'm her daughter.
Jeff:Oh I'm sorry!  I'm just calling from Canada!  I'm just some guy....I'm nobody.  I just couldn't believe all these different stories.  
So that Val... she sells that photo for $20 dollars or something...and all that stuff,,, so that's just not....what did --you'd think even on the photo it didn't look the right color to be a plane crash or whatever...

Leverknight's daughter:my mom was the first one at the crash site...

Jeff:oh she was?  so she was right there on hand...so did she take any pictures or anything?
Leverknight's daughter:yeah and they were printed in the newspaper
Jeff:oh they were?
Leverknight's daughter:yeah
Jeff:did she have pictures of the smoke and stuff too?....how come no one--
Leverknight's daughter:when you take a picture of a crash site there's gonna be smoke 
Jeff:but how come the only one anyone says exists is val mcclatchey's photo?
Leverknight's daughter:because they're idiot?
Jeff:it was printed in the local newspaper in shanksville or something?
Leverknight's daughter:yeah?
Jeff:it wasn't put on CNN or anything like that eh?
Leverknight's daughter:No
Jeff:wow.. so what did you guys see?
Leverknight's daughter:I didn't see anything.  I was in school.  
Jeff:oh yeah, your mom did.  so there was no forest fires or anything like that?
Leverknight's daughter:no
Jeff:no trees burned up or anything like that?
Leverknight's daughter:no
Jeff:did they find anything in a lake or something like that?
Leverknight's daughter:a lake formed where it was crashed down...strip mine
Jeff:and old mining place? that's where they used ordinance blast or something
Leverknight's daughter:it's an abandoned mine because they ran out of coal
Jeff:uh huh.  What about the area...I heard the area is still under 24 hour surveillance  and no one's allowed within five miles of it or something like that?

[garbled]

Leverknight's daughter:not where the plane hit
Jeff:it's like all fenced off and stuff
Leverknight's daughter:yes
Jeff:and there's 24 hour surveillance still?
Leverknight's daughter:there's no surveillance there. they have a fence around it.
Jeff:oh but there's not armed guards there...
Leverknight's daughter:how did you get this number?
Jeff:I don't know ...I just found it on the Internet
Leverknight's daughter:Our phone number's not on the internet
Jeff:I don't know...I found it on the internet under kelly leverknight
Leverknight's daughter:our phone number should not be on the internet
Jeff:oh I don't know, that's where I saw it.  I said maybe I could just call them up and ask them some questions..clear everything all this confusing going on know
likes it's weird too I seen all this stuff with rosie odonnal on tv in the past couple days and stuff like that..there saying different things its weird
Leverknight's daughter:and?
Jeff:they'er saying there's a lot ..there should be a new investigation and all this stuff--like why didn't anybody do anything with Val McClatchey's photo then?
Leverknight's daughter:what?
Jeff:Why doesn't nobody tell Val McClatchey to stop selling that photo or something?
Leverknight's daughter:Cuz it's called freedom of speech?  <<y defend if she thinks it's fake?
Jeff:but isn't that like fraud or something like that?  or forgery or something like that?  I dunno...
Leverknight's daughter:Forgery?
Jeff:Forgery...I dunno if it's a fake photo...and she's passing it off like the be all end all of flight 93  or something
Leverknight's daughter:Well then that's just her poor taste(?), isn't it?
Jeff:But there's people on the Internet who've looked at her photo and analyzed it  and they even say the smoke plumes seven football fields wide...it's too big..it doesn't make sense...it doesn't line up from where she took the photo..
....have questions about 911


Leverknight's daughter:it really doesn't bother me
--
Leverknight's daughter tells this clown(obviously brainwashed by Lazo's conspiracy cult junk) TWICE, she was IN SCHOOL at the time of the attack.    Leverknight, on the crash scene, is NOT THE SAME PERSON.

But Lazo continues to act as if the daughter is the mother as he continues to scribble:


This admission from Ms. Leverknight is pertinent for three reasons:

1. She confirms one of my two theories about Val's photo; that it's fake.

2. Before this admission, I had never speculated that Val took any photos on 9/11. Ms. Leverknight implies that Val did indeed take at least one photo on 9/11, but that this original photo did not have a mushroom cloud in it.

3. I've never had any contact with any of the Leverknight's, ever, so I have no reason to believe that Ms. Leverknight is not being honest and sincere about this admission.
(*The lady on the phone suspected to be Kelly.)
(Update 09/22/08: YouTube pulls video.  Alt link at LiveVideo.)
Looks like the LiveVideo copy got pulled too:
http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/E4E2067E7DD541559FF8DAF4269155B1/576508/shanksville-local-says-flight.aspx
 No route to host

What the Youtube link actually says:
Shanksville local says Flight 93 plume photo is fake!

 "Shanksville local says Fli..."
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Mtn. Lakes Realty,llc.

Most of the copies are gone, but conspiracyfags keep referring to Lazo's so called research.  Like this crazy chick:

New 9/11 Pennsylvania Crash Footage Filmed by a Mason!
Uploaded by on Sep 7, 2011
 New footage of the Shanksville, Pennsylvania crash site released this week shows smoke rising from where the plane supposedly went down- but what does it really prove?
http://www.firetown.com/blog/2011/09/05/the-10-year-anniversary-of-911-is-nea...
Let's Roll forum discussion on this
http://letsrollforums.com/new-video-shanksville-surfaces-t26322.html?s=d442bd...
Tribune Democrat
http://tribune-democrat.com/local/x1095936052/Flight-93-crash-site-video-surf...
Dave Berkebile was a Freemason!
http://articles.dailyamerican.com/2011-02-28/lifestyle/29154895_1_berlin-memo...
Shanksville residents say the photo is fake:
http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/
Strange things about the other photo of the crash by Val McClatchey
http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-mcclatchey-photo-more-smoking-g...

Lazo material in bold red.  Epic comment:
This woman needs locking up. She is clearly insane.
archive threeothree 1 week ago

Other "oddities" in the Leverknight interview:
> three "yeah" that sound identical...as if they were dubbed in
>Leverknight's daughter defends McClatchey's free speech. Weird to do if she really thought McClatchey was committing fraud.

Of course the biggest "oddity" is Lazo continuing to push this interview as evidence when it was made by a person Lazo claims helped blackmail Lazo and/or one of his friends:
Nov 26, 2009 – Also, Canadian Jeff Hill (a.k.a."Shure"), most known for calling people and recording them without their consent and owner of pumpitout forum where Cressy also hangs out at as "Jenny", looks to be an accomplice in this blackmailing because somebody gave Cressy Slick's email and Jeff had posted on his forum that he had been talking to Slick through email just before Slick took the forum down.

COOL STORY BRO



Lazo has zip to back it up.  More likely this Jeff Hill guy was once one of many Lazo's dupes, then gotta clue and dumped him.  Lazo, like most cultists, takes rejection badly and retaliates by projection and spreading self serving lies.

Kinda like how Lazo started his "relationship with" Val McClatchey.

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Original photo has been posted at Facebook:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/303952_4648712820888_1919481907_n.jpg

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