Mirrored in case they change their minds.
by Rita S.
Killtown. A name hated and reviled in conspiracy circles on the internet. In their own words:
thelibra (Forum Moderator) - "Killtown, in the future, please
refrain from just making things up and presenting them as fact. I'm
editing the title of this thread, and I'd also consider yourself on thin
ice as far as this forum goes."(from ATS)
Springer Killtown got banned because he REFUSED to abide the TAC,
PERIOD. We'd ban ANYONE who acted like he was WELL before webanned him,
we tried on several levels to work with him but to no avail. END OF
STORY.
intrepid Well, if you've followed killtowns career, so to speak,
he has a propensity to get banned pretty much everywhere that he
registers. He wears his bannings like a badge of honor and plays the
martyr.
Zaphod58 Killtown WAS warned, and he was told a couple of times
in a thread by thelibra that he was on thin ice, and to watch his step.
He kept pushing, and then posted to his blog and other places about how
ATS was censoring him. It seems to ME that his agenda was to get banned
so he could point at ATS and say how they censor the truth movement.
Mirthful Me The member "killtown" was post banned over the
weekend for violating the new "Closer Scrutiny" policy for the 9/11
Forum… The member also recently received a warning for conduct in the
9/11 Forum, and has had several U2U exchanges with senior staffers (as
has most of the regulars within the 9/11 Forum). Killtown was well aware
that everyone was under the microscope, and he continued to post in a
manner that was not to "Deny Ignorance, but to bait and troll…
Apparently to allow him to play the role of the oppressed "truther" on
other sites. This had become his sole reason for participating here at
ATS, and as such was "contributing" in a manner that does in fact
violate the Terms & Conditions.
SkepticOverlord After much consideration and discussion among our
staff, it is with sincere regret that I announce the termination of ATS
membership privileges for "killtown."
crowpruitt Its sad one would merely use ATS as a way to gain
attention.I applaud Skeptic Overlord and co. for their actions in this
matter.
bsbray11 To be honest he's always seemed to me to be more
interested in creating drama on forums than anything in particular he's
saying anyway.
Fett Pinkus Ban baby ban
L.L. If he never corrects any of his theories, even in the face
of UNDEBUNKABLE evidence, then that tells us a lot about his motives and
agenda.
RasgaSaias He doesn't understand that this drama won't change the fact that his theories are dead
RasgaSaias Killtown, an influent 911movement gatekeeper,
gradually muted all those exposing the disinformation tactics at his
forum. Silence, censorship and personal attacks have been the ultimate
weapons used against truth. Ace Baker and Genghis, two of the most
prominent researchers on the fake planes field, have seen their privacy
invaded by nameless, faceless and spineless internet stalkers
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Quite a collection of quotes! The researcher known as "Killtown" or
"KT", has mirrored his material at The Webfairy's site for some time:
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/
Its a strange mix of material from government archives, paeans to
Libertarian philosophy, the works of Webster Tarpley, right-wing
Constitutional politics, 911 conspiracies and a bizarre hit blog called
Flight 93 Photo Fraud that makes the claim Shanksville witness Val
McClatchey, who took the photo The End of Serenity, not only faked her
photo, but did so to make a money off the 9/11 attacks and defraud a
charity.
Outrageous claims, one might say. But "Killtown" is an outrageous
guy. Not afraid to cause a stir, soon after his debut on the conspiracy
scene, his sites became the target of numerous removals and bannings.
Or were they? In 2003 alone Killtown's site was moved three times.
Over the next two years, two more sites would vanish without a trace,
and one would be threatened with termination on "the eve of explosive
news", as Killtown claims, never at a loss for the dramatic(this
explosive news was never revealed). More "bad luck" would visit him in
2007; his MySpace would vanish, as would his YouTube account. Someone
was impersonating him, or so he claims. And all during this time he was
waging a war against censorship he fought so fiercely he found himself
banned unjustly from virtually every major conspiracy site, as well as a
couple of mainstream sites.
That's the story he wants us to believe. The real story of Killtown
is complicated and not completely known. His reputation initially came
from his credits in the 911 conspiracy film, Loose Change, that promised
to prove the September 11th attacks were a government conspiracy, but
instead has become a source of conspiracies itself. Killtown, ambitious
for his own spot light, severed his connections as soon as convenient
and took up the cause of "No Planes", allying himself with James Fezter,
an avid supporter of Dr. Judy Wood and her so called theory that the
twin towers were zapped into dust by an orbital space laser. But
Killtown wasn't deterred by the obviously nuttery. He donned his tin
foil hat with a smile, secure his time for fame had come.
What made him so certain of his destiny? What back room deals were
made to secure his position as a conspiracy researcher and debater
extraordinar? Ms. Wood herself was rumored to be rehabilitated from a
tragic accident. His close associate, Rosalee Grable, known as the
Webfairy, herself was institutionalized then released under sketchy
circumstances not fully reported at this time. Both have worked
tirelessly from deep inside the kooky camp, pushing the bizarrest of
"theories"; could it be an arrangement was made with Killtown as well,
setting himself up to be his own star?
If so, Killtown could be a victim of his own success. His previous
reputation, built on reposting reams of archived government footage,
plus a snazzy film credit, required minimum engagement with his
audience. But in early 2007 Killtown struck out on his own, founding his
own forum, 911 movement.org, where (he claims) "no theory will be
censored".
But what he really meant was that no theory he didn't approve of will
be censored. Heady with power, Killtown quickly became the thing he
claimed to despise, banning people for the slightest disagreement, while
letting old cronies like Webfairy and Ozzybinoswald, abuse and provoke
members without check. Some of his cronies took to making videos
suggesting people they didn't like be executed as terrorists. They
marketed this meme as WQ2RX. All the while Killtown turned a blind eye,
but in some cases actively encouraged the stalking of their targets. The
situation became so dire that by the beginning of 2008 most members
fled the board to either the Pumpitout forum or the relatively new
911taboo forum.
The worst was yet to come. In 2008 Killtown was to pay dearly for
claiming for four years that Val McClatchey had faked her photo in
Shanksville. A group of unknown individuals who claim to be members of
Anonymous set up Killtown's Secret Archive, a blog to track Killtown's
activities and give former victims a way to share information:
http://killtownsecretarchive.blogspot.com/
Killtown has blamed various past enemies, real or imagined, for this
blog, which may have some basis in fact. The blog actively seeks
"donations", that is information, and they claim they will stop as soon
as they know exactly who Killtown is. It is not beyond possibility that
some of his past victims have, as they say, "sang like canaries". If the
allegations claimed in the blog are true, that's not surprising.
They (Anonymous) appear certain Killtown is a type of cyber stalker,
working with a gang of people hell bent on slandering or defaming anyone
who crosses them. They(the Killtown gang) are recorded digging for
information on false pretexts, posting personal details the targets have
never posted on-line in public, insinuating death threats through
numerous videos. There is even one report of Killtown's alleged
girlfriend, Jennifer Wynhausen of Portland, Oregon(rumored to engage in
email harassment under the nym "the911stalker") , taking a group of
people to someone's house to threaten them with physical violence;
though not confirmed, when confronted, Killtown did not deny it.
Outrageous indeed. More recently Killtown has used a possible suicide attempt in a cynical bid to reclaim his former glory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9876dk_zg
Killtown makes many wild claims in the video description, not the
least of which assuming this was a deliberate stunt. But that is unknown
at the time. A real researcher wouldn't have such a callous disregard
for the facts, or the suffering of the man in question. Even if it is a
"stunt", it is also a cry for help. But Killtown doesn't care; he is
determined to get his fame back at any cost and if he needs to step over
a body to do it, figuratively or literally, so be it.
This callous nature reveals the real Killtown, an infantile adult
desparate for attention. What if the reasons for his sites' mysterious
disapearances weren't disapearance at all, but pulled down by Killtown
himself to give him the appearance of someone about to crack a
conspiracy and feared by "the powers that be"? It would match his later
compulsive trolling to get banned, again a cry for attention. His claim
someone was impersonating him. He's always a victims. And he can't be
just a conspiracy theoriest, he has to be the most conspiratorial
conspiracy theorist: laser beams attacked America on 9/11!
This would be simply funny, if not sad, if Killtown wasn't starting to live up to his name: Killtown.
"Anonymous" believes he's dangerous. An associate was caught wiring
money off shore. The recipient, a man called Joe Vialls, passed away
three years ago from natural causes. Or did he? That is left to those
more qualified to investigate. But what is true beyond a doubt is the
series of videos featuring death threats, execution imagery and porn to
targeting people Killtown's gang has (allegedly) obtained personal
information about by deceptive means. The following videos and accounts
below are an example of the shenanigans of Killtown's gang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFWZGXTMGRE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azURaXAe2mY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sip3lIcyhMU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaqqcpvCXc0
http://www.youtube.com/user/rat8bush http://www.youtube.com/user/cow4grass
The first account Dog4tree, attibuted as the "leader" of video threats was Dog4tree, but that account has bee suspended:
http://www.youtube.com/user/dog4tree
We can all agree free speech ends at death threats and intimidation; these videos should be flagged for removal.
This is the product of the Killtown gang. A domain search of
Dog4tree.com reveals Rosalee Grable as the owner, implying a key, if not
vital role in the creation of these videos and perhaps they're funding.
In her defense she writes:
I bought the domain name Dog4Tree.com and org in a seemingly
gentler time to post transcripts of the 911 Octopus series. I do not
endorce violence in any way shape or form against anybody ever. The
videos are an artistic depiction of anger and show means of self defense
after these Cartoon Creators of a Cartoon Reality establish their
Martial Law plans, which were foiled this time around.
What this paranoid drivel means can only be guested at. Grable is
mistaken if she thinks she pass off implied death threats combined with
unauthorized use of personal details as harmless artistic fun. Killtown
is not alone in his delusional hubris. Which some of his forum members
find shocking when they dare to question these actions:
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=1350
you are now threatening my children? KILLTOWN! HELP!
And:
So, we will be hunted down, huh? How would you like to be
threatened like that? Hey, Webfairy, Killtown, Peggy, Nico? Is it
acceptable to post videos that threaten to hunt people?
But Killtown ignores these pleas. His concern for protecting pet
theories and his ego out weighs any concern for protecting people, even
his own members, from the attentions of his stalking gang. No one is
safe who does not agree with him.
What does this mean for the rest of us outside conspiracy circles?
The problem is we don't get to chose the online interests of our friends
and family. So we may be targeted for cyber stalker activity even if we
have no connection to the main targets. It behooves all of us to take
an interest in online based stalking, especially after the recent tragic
events at Myspace.
Unfortunately, this situation is likely to get worse. Killtown has
never faced serious consequences for his actions. Not for his harassment
and slander of 911 witness Val McClatchey, not for hosting a gang of
video stalkers on his forum. It might take a tragic event to drive home
the urgency of hosting sites to enforce their terms of service. Many
online service providers, including Invisionfree who host Killtown's
forum, take a laissez faire attitude towards complaints, especially if
they stand to loose money. What they fail to appreciate is, by
neglecting their own Terms of Service, they are helping to create a
hostile Internet environment, and losing money will be the least of
their problems if someone gets seriously injured.
Or tries to commit suicide and is viciously mocked by an adult child desperate for attention, as Killtown is in this thread,
Ace Baker FAKES suicide on Jim Fetzer's show, Listen to audio clip of fake gunshot —>
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5907&st=0
But what could motivate Killtown, besides the need for fame and attention? A clue is dropped by a member:
mind-control cult-for-money
Could Anonymous be right? Could Killtown be motivated, or even a
victim of, cult influence taking advantage of his natural psychological
weaknesses?
Killtown's time of reckoning seems to be coming. It is one thing to
believe strange conspiracy theories about the September 11th attacks on
America, and quite a another to leverage that belief as an excuse to
harass anyone who dares to question his personality cult.
One is the purview of anyone in a free society to believe what they
want, no matter how crazy. The other is possibly criminal and is begging
for a civil suit at the least. If Killtown can be connected to stalking
and video harassment including death threats, this latest stunt of his
part to take advantage of a suicide attempt bodes ill for Killtown's
future. If he's upping the ante, his need for attention out of control,
it is only a matter of time before "Killtown" finds himself facing a
judge.
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Notes and links:
Killtown's sites:
http://forum.911movement.org/ http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/ http://www.geocities.com/killtown/
Loose Change: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_(video)
Article on Val McClatchey:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06218/711239-85.stm
James Fetzer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer
"Dr." Judy Wood:
http://www.drjudywood.com/
Conspiracy forums disputing Killtown:
http://www.911blogger.com/ http://www.abovetopsecret.com/ http://z15.invisionfree.com/911taboo http://www.pumpitout.com/
Jennifer Wynhausen:
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=4017
"It is pathetically sad that he clings to "anonymousity" at a time
when a solid attractive respectable couple like Jennifer and Killtown
could create a real on-the-ground impact, much more mainstreamable than
Nico's edgy marginalization."
http://www.katu.com/news/10130686.html
the911stalker email harassment:
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/04/911-stalker-updat...
Anonymous blog alleging to expose Killtown as a cyber stalker:
http://killtownsecretarchive.blogspot.com/
contactanon54(AT)yahoo(DOT)com
Myspace Lori Drew case:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/lori-drew-indic.html
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KBOO Staffer
The Rose City Antifa's allied
website "pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com" has published a
racist profile and diatribe against a KBOO staffer and correspondent
named Mel Reslor.
The Rose City Antifa and Anti Racist Action's allied website known
as "pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com" has published a racist
profile and diatribe against a KBOO staffer and correspondent named
Mel Reslor. The "dramatica" website's racist description of KBOO
staffer Mel Reslor is dated March 12, 2012, and it states:
"Quiet and clueless silent partner, group bagman and professional
coward. Unlike his associate Glen Owen, Reslor continues to enjoy a
good reputation at KBOO radio, the local alternative station; KBOO
radio members should expect any personal details Reslor is privy to
end up in the hands of the group's Nazi friendly network. Otherwise
harmless, Reslor stands by, watching the group's scams, doing nothing
and warning no one.
A group member since at least 2005, Reslor mostly lurks in the
background, playing the inoffensive Asian role to the hilt. His
opinions are the group's opinions; expeditions searching for signs of
independent thought from Reslor have come back exhausted and empty
handed, even the ones going as far as Regulus with FTL drive. On the
other hand, we could be racist expecting someone who looks Asian to be
more intelligent than average. We apologize. Even Asians have a
constitutional human right to stupidity."
Link: http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com/2012/03/mel-
reslor.html
The "pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com" website further claims
that Mel Reslor interviewed a "Holocaust denier" on the air at KBOO,
but none of the interviewees that it mentions are Holocaust deniers.
The "pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com" website presents no
proof or evidence that Mel Reslor ever interviewed any Holocaust denier.
The racist attack and false accusations against Mel Reslor by
the "pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com" website are typical of
the Rose City Antifa's ongoing smear campaign against respectable
activists in the Portland area.