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Sunday, October 7, 2012

Co-op Activist Targeted for Anti-Racist Advocacy

Scroll down to read Red and Black Cafe joins boycott
with Facebook notes

From:
 http://rosecityantifa.weebly.com/1/category/tim%20calvert/1.html

Co-op Activist Targeted for Anti-Racist Advocacy

10/07/2012


 On the early morning of October 6th, a rock was thrown through the home window of a worker at the Red & Black Café who is active in co-op circles. Writing on the rock read: “RCA [Rose City Antifascists] fuck off”. While the person targeted is not a member of Rose City Antifascists, the attack on the home was clearly designed to send a message of intimidation to broader anti-racist circles. Anti-racists in Portland will not step back any of their efforts as a result of the home vandalism.

The rock-throwing took place the day after the Red & Black Café collective decided to endorse the Rose City Antifa call for Citybikes to be boycotted. Rose City Antifa issued that call for a boycott due to years of antisemitic activism and promotion of militant racists by Citybikes President Tim Calvert. The Red & Black Café is a worker-owned cooperative business in Portland also affiliated with the local branch of the Industrial Workers of the World.

The co-op activist whose home was targeted had previously worked independently of RCA within the co-op movement, trying to raise the issue of Tim Calvert’s antisemitic activism within the Western Worker Cooperative Conference (WWCC) at a time when Calvert was part of the WWCC Board. Tim Calvert’s ally Rod McLaughlin (AKA “Jay Knott”), another hardcore antisemitic propagandist who maintains the Pacifica Forum website, wrote about this co-op activism in a March 2012 article titled “Zionist Bullying in the West Coast Co-op Movement”. The alleged “Zionist bullying” was speaking out against the  Judeophobic agitation that Calvert engages in alongside racist, anti-choice and anti-queer organizers. McLaughlin’s article quotes emails that were sent as part of WWCC discussions, suggesting that someone in the co-op movement leaked or forwarded these communications to Calvert’s bigoted friends. The Pacifica Forum, whose website McLoughlin operates, is notorious for hosting speakers such as Jimmy Marr of the National Socialist Movement. We are alarmed that discussion from the co-op movement was passed on to McLoughlin and possibly other political associates of Calvert.


 Rose City Antifascists are looking into all angles surrounding the targeting of the home. We are committed to defending those singled out for being anti-racists, whether or not they are active within our organization.

We are currently accepting donations for the person whose home was targeted, for window replacement and related expenses, which we will pass on directly. Please, if sending funds, also send a brief note to our main email letting us know that funds are earmarked for solidarity with the targeted co-op worker.

Anyone who may have information about this attack is invited to contact Rose City Antifascists. Our voicemail number is 971-533-7832 and our email is fight_them_back [at] riseup [dot] net.
 Mirrored at Portland Indymedia, where one reader implies the group was making related plans at the True Brew Coffee House:

.....     08.Oct.2012 06:36
........
I guess this IS what they were talking about at the True Brew Saturday, I stand corrected.

The boycott aside which I support, take out the specifics and this sounds like a response to a percieved oppression. Just an observation.


 This comment is dubious for a couple of reasons.  The author, "....." is probably the same faggot making excuses for Tim Calvert in this thread, compare posts:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/10/418709.shtml#405941
 How about you invite them to have a healthy dialogue about whether or not they're biggots before you run over there like a John Ford film looking to beat up a bunch of conspiracy geeks? Seriously.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/10/418709.shtml?discuss#405866
 Antisemitism in conspiracy theory culture still needs to be addressed and if only for the cause of not divering attention from Israeli war crimes while skating on antisemtism Im not a hundred percent on this, but a set of guidelines or creating a section for articles that aren't first hand accounts or have any verifiable evidence wouldn't be a bad idea. Because they like antifa act like me openly and indulgently act like spoiled children when we (they?) don't get our way and don't post one article but abuse your eebsite and post A GAZILLION articles. Its pretty fucking trite honestly.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/10/418709.shtml?discuss#405880
 and I supported this until I realized what was going on. You people don't give a shit about antisemitism you just want slmeone to go to war with. And unless you've had this stereotype fling at you with a biggots fist behind it, then you can take your "I was a teenage Anarchist" opinion and stuff it. Since were making gross generalizations based off shit we read on the portland indymedia page. Dick.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/10/418709.shtml?discuss#405904
 The people outlined here have been active conspiracy theorists for years. All their bullshit about Israel and 9/11 have produced half a shred of barely vrrifiable racism, yet alone kncitation to violence. Those individuals also were right wingers. Most of the conspiracy theorists here seem to be liberals, attacking people like Mitt Romney. Brevick was neo fascist who saw israel as a strategic ally in hurting Muslims, Mcveigh a right wing libertarian. There are these people here but few and far between. On top of which in some of the links you're posting you just seem to be directing us back to comments you had already made. You're pushing this boycott on us like they're on my sisters doorstep with pitchforks and guns. And you've already informed and made the call out, fine, we get it. As a Jew, your insistence on this and inability to distinguish between a threat and someone with a hobby is just as scary with a connotation of potential violence against a bunch of harmless weirdos.

Inform educate and leave it alone. Do your job or have the ethical standard to move on. Caause my Jewish ass ain't buying it. Fascists? Joe Sombody is in league with Hitler? Get fucking real.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/10/418709.shtml?discuss#405906
Yeah the Rothchilds are also usually equated with the N.W.O where as the Koch brothers rarely if ever are. Again, if there's a worthwhile criticism of bankers I'll be more than happy to oblige no matter what the name is. And don't attack how I choose to express my ethnicity kid.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/10/418709.shtml?discuss#405925
I also have to say that I've sat in the same room as that man and was damn proud to do it. So don't throw that in my face.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/10/418709.shtml?discuss#405950
 I always appreciate it when people adopt my vernaculars. I think me and vegan bike mama got along for three minutes before she had to bring up half relevant points to undercut me. But I have to flow up, Free Geeks been mentioned, PDXIM has been mentioned, what is going on here? I know you're dealing with genuine security culture problems and I sincerely agree that RCA whether in name or tactic alone provides vital functions for the community. But I'm reading, and it could just be some amqteur nitwit looking for an excuse to use the camera on his phone but w.t.f. is going on? Is there any validity to this claim and if there isn't why is it being made? Why are our passions being exhausted on 9/11 Truthers? Given I supported the boycott until it was forced down our throats.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/10/418709.shtml?discuss#405967
 All right. Because some nitwit is on one of the other threads making this whole thing appear to be some nazi conspiracy. Fucking valium people seriously.

You know when you make these calls it wouldn't hurt to put a disclaimer. I mean, you got fucking Matt Helm up above ready to do some great undercover work, and I'm all for hobbies. But something tells me big murderous conspiracies aren't being hatched at the Brew and View by the Truthers on a Saturday.

READERS NOTE SUSPICIOUSLY SPECIFIC DENIAL ABOVE
" But something tells me big murderous conspiracies aren't being hatched at the Brew and View by the Truthers on a Saturday."

 Unless someone is trolling, all these comments are by the same author, " ......".     The are clearly an apologistfag for Calvert and the group and do not support the boycott.  They aren't even smart enough to say, "After this attack, NOW I support the boycott."  They were hoping everyone would forget their other comments.

It is lol worthy how this person thinks  the person(s) throwing rocks think they were "oppressed":
The boycott aside which I support, take out the specifics and this sounds like a response to a percieved oppression. Just an observation.
Other readers are less impressed:

"Percieved oppression???"
 How is a rock laden with a clear threat thrown through a window "perceived?"

It seems clearly identifiable to me

But what does "......"  know, that no one else does, that they imply the 9/11 Truth Alliance is behind these attacks?

I guess this IS what they were talking about at the True Brew Saturday, I stand corrected.
So far no evidence has been released directly implicating Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance Members.

They are obvious suspects, and chances are the person or people who attacked the worker's house are sympathizers of Calvert, the 9/11 Truth Alliance , or both.  But if it turns out the group was part of this attack and intimidation tactic, it won't be a surprise.    People delusional enough to publish Myspace blogs about Canadian actors being complicit in the September 11th attacks, could be capable of anything....

Of course Calvert's fwriends don't think so:

 Stop smearing 9/11 Truthers ludicrous over-reaches
 Stop smearing 9/11 Truthers with ridiculous anti-semitism charges. It's ludicrous to suggest anyone who suggested some Jewish individuls somewhere may be guilty of making some big mistakes is anti-semitic. Is anyone who dares suggest some Jewish individual somewhere wasn't perfect now to be cast out of society? 
 Sorry, dipwad, the antisemitism of group members, particularly of Holohoax Titrud, has been documented:


Tim Titrud Holocaust Denier
"Very good videos showing the Holocaust is a lie."






Gee, better hope the group doesn't have anything to do with this attack on Red and Black.

Or this burglary on the SAME STREET, the next day.




Cuz that would be DUMB.




Red and Black Cafe Joins Boycott

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2012/10/419200.shtml

Say No to Racism; Boycott Citybikes

The Red & Black Cafe joins the boycott of Citybikes, another Portland worker co-operative, due to their unwillingness to hold Citybikes president and co-owner Tim Calvert accountable for several years of racist and other bigotted organizing.
It is with a great sense of sadness and dissappointment that the workers at the Red & Black Cafe announce that we have joined the call to boycott Citybikes, a worker co-operative bike shop just a few blocks from us in Portland. We are calling for the boycott because we oppose Citybikes worker Tim Calvert's racist organizing and now Citybikes for their inability to effectively oppose it. We have tried dialogue and educational efforts to no avail. Despite these setbacks we remain steadfast in our commitment to fighting antisemitism and other forms of bigotry wherever they appear. As part of this commitment we want to draw attention to a major blind spot when it comes to dealing with organized bigotry in our midst.

Three years ago Citybikes founder and worker owner Tim Calvert was accused of antisemitic organizing by Rose City Antifascists. Cafe workers took the time to review the evidence and to talk to folks from Citybikes & Laughing Horse. By this point, we learned, Tim had been forced to leave the Laughing Horse collective, largely for organizing bigoted speakers in the bookstore. It was concluded that Tim had been organizing and attending racist speaking engagements with the Portland 9-11 truth Alliance for several years at that point.[1] These events, and the organizations and ideology behind them, are completely at odds with an anti-oppression centered coop movement that is truly for all people.


We want to emphasize: these organizations and racist ideologies are far from harmless. In a small example of the danger involved a worker at the Red & Black's window was smashed with a rock. This rock had a warning written on it, "fuck off RCA" (Rose City Antifa). This occurred the morning after we decided to endorse the Citybikes boycott. [2]


When we first learned about this in 2009 it was hoped that Citybikes, with community support, would convince Tim to stop hosting racist speakers at Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance events. In order to share our perspective, and offer support to Citybikes, a few workers from the Red & Black and other concerned folks formed an adhoc committee. A mediated discussion was arranged.


The discussion was difficult, and nothing really came from it. At the end of the meeting we agreed to follow up talks; these never occurred. Later attempts to address this issue, first at the Western Worker Co-op Conference, and then at the US Federation of Worker Co-ops Conference, met mostly with silence or hostility by fellow attendees. Although we succeeded in alerting some folks in the worker co-op movement about the situation, in the end nothing was done with the information or the request that Tim step down from the Board of Director of the WWCC.


In the intervening years we grew increasingly concerned as a trickle of Citybikes workers (we heard) quit when it became clear there would be not be a meaningful resolution. [3] This process seems to have accelerated in recent weeks as workers have left in the wake of Portland 9-11 truth Alliance's latest event.


This latest event was a Portland 9/11 Truth picnic featuring Fritz Springmeier, a white separatist and convicted bomber with ties to the Army of God. The Army of God is a militant anti-choice group who have killed abortion providers and bombed clinics as well as queer bars. [4,5,6,7] This fits a pattern of Calvert's group; bringing an array of racist speakers and almost no one else.


Asking people to boycott a fellow worker co-op is not something we take lightly. We recognize and respect Citybikes' role as a pioneering business in Portland on several fronts: bike advocacy, co-operation among co-ops and workplace diversity. Tim shares responsibility for much of this work. These laudable achievements, however, don't let Tim or Citybikes off the hook. On the contrary; maintaining and building on these achievements requires that we unequivocally reject racism and other forms of oppression. Please take the time to read and reflect on this information. Let us know if you have any questions or you'd like to talk. Finally, please help us send a message that racism is unacceptable and stop shopping at Citybikes.


Signed,


The Red & Black Collective




1 A chronology of Calvert's racist organizing can be found here:

 http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/108111822?access_key=key-2ntzfgag7drff6cu6w4t

2 A post about the broken window: rosecityantifa.weebly.com/1/post/2012/1...

 link to rosecityantifa.weebly.com

3 In our original statement we defined what we meant by a meaningful response in our 'Open Letter to Citybikes' on page 13 of the 'Confronting Bigotry in Our Movement: A Call for Reflection and Support.'

 http://www.scribd.com/doc/109889899/Confronting-Bigotry-in-Our-Movement

4 Recent information from Rose City Antifa about Tim & the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance:

 link to rosecityantifa.org

5 "Couple tied to separatist movement face drug trafficking charges" Eugene Register Guard March 3, 2001:


news.google.com/newspapers?id=ZHIVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=musDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3759,523756&dq=fritz-springmeier&hl=en

 link to news.google.com

6 "Our Existence Is Unknown" - Oregon Spotlight February 28, 2003

 http://web.archive.org/web/20030802091701/http://oregonspotlight.org/news.htm

7 (2003)UNITED STATES of America, Plaintiff, v. Fritz Artz SPRINGMEIER, Defendant.


No. CR 02-24-RE. United States District Court, D. Oregon.


scholar.google.com/scholar_case?q="Fritz+Artz+Springmeier"&hl=en&as_sdt=3,44&case=17290688063678630470&scilh=0


8 Southern Poverty Law Center on Fritz Springmeier:

 link to www.splcenter.org

Awesomely Epic.

Comments on subject from social networking sites:

"Not many people know it, but the Fuhrer was a terrific dancer." - Franz Liebkind, character from Mel Brooks' 'The Producers' 1968

"I was not the one to suggest Fritz Springmeir attend the potluck in the park, but I did not say no he can’t come; did I witness him doing anything inappropriate? No, he played bocce ball." - Tim Calvert, in real life, 2012

" We are calling for the boycott because we oppose Citybikes worker Tim Calvert's racist organizing and now Citybikes for their inability to effectively oppose it. We have tried dialogue and educational efforts to no avail. Despite this we remain steadfast in out commitment to fighting antisemitism and other forms of bigotry wherever they appear. As part of this commitment we want to draw attention to a major blind spot when it comes to dealing with organized bigotry in our midst."
Important!
City Bikes and Others Whine on Red and Black Facebook page

Read more here:https://www.facebook.com/notes/red-and-black-cafe/say-no-to-racism-boycott-citybikes/10151093992001778

  • Cane Prevost Already boycotting red and black bacause of their shameful treatment of Portland police.


  • Pat Bognar I am sad to see the Red and Black throwing in w/ this anonymous group-- antifa.
But Bognar has no problem "throwing in" with closet Nazis[NOTE; scanning Bognar's fb profile there's no sign she's a closet Nazi or a conspiracy freak.  Just another gullible leftist Calvert conned with his Nazi charm] :


Pat Bognar I saw the Anelauskas video. It was boring but there was absolutely nothing in it which was anti-semitic.

Pat Bognar Tim has offered to meet with his detractors but they refuse to meet. This is a rather childish way of dealing with others- don't you think? I have know Tim for many years and worked with him professionally. He has NEVER said the slightest thing

Bognar must buy lots of bridges in swampland. Of course a closet Nazi isn't going to "say anything" to identify himself.  That's why Calvert is a CLOSET Nazi, dumbass. Note the group cultspeak "detractors".

Pat Bognar about the holocaust. He is supportive of Rachel Corrie and the Palestinians and so am I. Let's show our faces when we decide to go after people and not hide like cowards. It is a little like the 'cool' kids going after nerdy kids. The 'cool' kids are popular and they take great joy in attacking others that don't have their
Hmmm...Bognar implies Antifa is popular.  Got one thing right.  Has nothing to do with the Holocaust though.  

The real lulz begin when Calvert's anarchist ex alma mater, Laughing Horse Books, steps in the ring:


  • Laughing Horse Book and Film Collective statements, that went against our (at the time NEW) safer space policy were made and heard as far back as winter 2005, there were excuses then- thought police this and i'm not deny'n i'm questioning that, LATER for that we said, and he tried to show us some websites he looked. At that time I just thought he was fucking around looking at gross websites I would never look at, but in my home I saw 1 man one jar, so it's sick but just a website, u get grossed out u move, JUST NOT IN THE BOOKSTORE WE SAID. Do not discuss or talk to me about what you looked at!!!!!! He agreed, and there was real SHOCK going on there, I told him to SHUT IT i'd been to AUSWITZ, I'VE SEEN ROOMS FILLED with hair glasses, empty cans of cyclone B, and HE said well the sites got an answer for that too!!!!! FUCK, so back in 2005 I met with Stew Albert who was very sick at the time and asked him for help in this matter I took very seriously, he did and again Tim said he would NOT talk about it in the book store, but he grumbled about it, we wants to say what ev and be entitled....... WHAT EV.

Laughing Horse Book and Film Collective all hard hard HARD STUFF for someone I had known for years, and of course a year later the 9/11 truth group brought right wing nut pro lifer Mary Starrat to portland to speak at laughing horse. We were told who she was we mobilized we stopped it from happening, they moved it. LOOK, the 9/11 truth movement got SCARY they split they tried to bring Anelauskas to laughing horse and HE HIMSELF WAS like radical bookstore, you booked me WHERE? We said NO they moved it, 9/11 GLEN OWEN called someone the C word me the N word, he was asked to leave, Tim was forced to resign, the group asked to leave, or they left actually. Glen took over our website and wrote awful things, SCARY!
Laughing Horse Book and Film Collective found a statement from him from oct 15 on bike portland.org
That would be the comment where Calvert claims to be resigning from the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance.   It's mirrored at Indymedia.

 "Therefore I am publically announcing my resignation and distancing myself from the 9-11 truth group and will no longer organize any events associated with them. I do this because I want to protect Citybikes from defamation and because the 9-11 group has been effectively suppressed in Portland."

Problem is: we just received correspondence the group has a history of members pretending to leave when the really haven't.  More to come.

So far Red and Black Facebook note has 21 likes and 27 shares. All the conspiracy cult can muster is one and a half supporters.


LOL.  Probably playing it safe after seeing what happened to Craig Lazo's   Facebook account.  That's why they had to rope in Bognar...The cult is all on Facebook, but they don't dare show their faces, lol.

But if you want to see them go to the True Brew, er, Bowery Commons:

Marek Swift god, so Tim Calvert is THIS moron in the photo! bahaha! i see him with his fellow asshats having their cloak and dagger 9-11 meetings every single saturday early afternoon at true brew coffee house in SE portland (on SE Milwaukie, now called the "bowery commons") - what a tool. i totally support your boycott, thanks for sharing the info, it's good & important to know. ..... 
Calvert's old business buddy Noehren shows up to imply Calvert's "oppressed":


Good comment by Jlang:


  • Jlang Lang Roger Noehren and Pat Bognar: A couple of things. First of all it's not 'guilt by association.' Tim Calvert, whatever he thinks (or says) his motivations are, is a hard working, engaged promoter of racism. The point is to get him to stop and I think he's been left alone too long. Please actually read the documentation and recognize that it's unfortunately possible that someone you have a good relationship with is also doing something very harmful when you're not around. This also applies to the frequent observation 'Tim has never done or said anything antisemitic(etc) in my presence' from which the conclusion does not follow: 'therefore Tim never does or says anything antisemitic.'

    Roger you brought up the idea of not shooting the messenger. Why not apply that to Antifa who, after all, are just doing research and then presenting it? While you're at it please stop bringing up the red herring of Antifa's anonymity. Due to consistent and effective action against violent racists (around the world, for decades) members of Antifa would be in real danger if they revealed who they were. They would probably need a lot better reason than having a debate with antisemites.

    Finally the fact that people sometimes play bocce ball, have a compost bin etc. proves nothing. It seems to me that all this boils down to here is that someone who does nice/innocuous things would never do mean/racist things. Unfortunately this isn't true. For example one time when Fritz Springmeier wasn't playing bocce ball he bombed a porn store as a diversion so that his white separatist, anti-choice militia could rob a bank.


Friday, May 25, 2012

Wikileaks and THE JEWS

Tl;dr hand wringing whining attempt by STRATFOR crybaby Petros Evdokas to wheedle information out of IMC, specifically who made the decision to mirror Wikileaks content on indymedia servers:

[Imc-communication] Yes! to supporting Wikileaks, but....

Petros Evdokas petros at cyprus-org.net
Mon Dec 6 03:47:24 PST 2010

I'd like to extend my thanks to whoever it was among us who took the 
initiative to create an indymedia mirror to wikileaks, here:
http://wikileaks.indymedia.org/

The wikileaks team deserves all the support it can get, in these crazy 
times. The global features editorial group is preparing to publish an 
article in support of wikileaks, as well, which is another good step.

But:
taking the step to create an imc mirror to wikileaks involves all us, 
especially given the possibility that our entire indymedia network might 
be knocked off the internet in retaliation by the imperialist powers who 
want to silence wikileaks. It's a worthy risk to take, and I support it.
ww
But there was no discussion about it anywhere on our global lists. 
Neither imc-communication nor imc-process have a single email about this 
proposal. We should have been asked for input so that it could be a 
democratic decision with transparency

The motives are great and the cause is worthwhile, but this decision 
by-passed even the most rudimentary of our principles of unity. Even if 
the practicalities of it demanded some secrecy (as they should, given 
the sensitive nature of the issue) we could have still discussed 
together it a little and then empower a group of our colleagues to take 
whatever steps needed to actualize the democratic decision. But as it 
stands now, someone took a decision for all of us, and all of indymedia 
is involved in it.

Again, I applaud the step, and if it had been proposed to any of our 
bodies I would have supported it with fervor. But I'm dissapointed with 
the lack of transparency.

My honest thanks again to whoever it was.
Petros,
volunteer, Cyprus IndyMedia Collective
http://petros-evdokas.cyprus-org.net/Another-sort-of-Introduction.html 
Evdumbkas thinks everyone at IMC is going to be stupid enough to:

a: share his concern there might be retaliation
b: TELL HIM WHO DID IT ON A PUBLIC LISTSERVE

That's gonna happen.

This feeble information trolling was picked up by Evdokas' gal pal Lamadrid:

Former WTCD users weigh in elsewhere...

Commentary from Petros and GlennG (turboglo) -- added as additional perspective:
Subject: Yes! to supporting Wikileaks, but....
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010
From: Petros Evdokas
To: IMC Comunications

I'd like to extend my thanks to whoever it was among us who took the
initiative to create an indymedia mirror to wikileaks, here:
http://wikileaks.indymedia.org/

The wikileaks team deserves all the support it can get, in these crazy
times. The global features editorial group is preparing to publish an
article in support of wikileaks, as well, which is another good step.

But:
taking the step to create an imc mirror to wikileaks involves all us,
especially given the possibility that our entire indymedia network might
be knocked off the internet in retaliation by the imperialist powers who
want to silence wikileaks. It's a worthy risk to take, and I support it.
ww
But there was no discussion about it anywhere on our global lists.
Neither imc-communication nor imc-process have a single email about this
proposal. We should have been asked for input so that it could be a
democratic decision with transparency

The motives are great and the cause is worthwhile, but this decision
by-passed even the most rudimentary of our principles of unity. Even if
the practicalities of it demanded some secrecy (as they should, given
the sensitive nature of the issue) we could have still discussed
together it a little and then empower a group of our colleagues to take
whatever steps needed to actualize the democratic decision. But as it
stands now, someone took a decision for all of us, and all of indymedia
is involved in it.

Again, I applaud the step, and if it had been proposed to any of our
bodies I would have supported it with fervor. But I'm dissapointed with
the lack of transparency.

My honest thanks again to whoever it was.
Petros,
volunteer, Cyprus IndyMedia Collective
http://petros-evdokas.cyprus-org.net/Another-sort-of-Introduction.html

turboglo at blogger:
Don't use Paypal to make donation
As many of you know, Paypal has taken an official stand against Wikileaks. I for one will never use Paypal again. I hope you feel the same way.
Submitted by turboglo on Mon, 12/06/2010 - 12:41pm.
 Hard to tell what Lamadrid's point is.  "Turboglo" is of course the same token queer in the group caught organizing with the "sexist, homophobic, jew haters" Evdokas likes to rant about. Interesting both Evdokas and Goldman used to be users of the website.  The  reason for Lamadrid's post seems to be to get users to watch the IMC thread in case anyone is actually dumb enough to give Evdokas information on the list.  Lamadrid adds:

 And the Indymedia mirror is really quite significant...
Especially given the lack of transparency in how it came to be. Really -- I'm kind of tripping that I can click on a link with indymedia in the address and instantly be seeing Assange's smug-looking mug, asking for money.
Easy trip.  None of this implying Wikileaks is sinister is surprising.  This website pushes softcore Anti-Semite propaganda and Holocaust denial; they even link to Council for the National Interest
in their feeds, and anyone looking at CNI's wiki page  would see it's members are also softcore peddlers of Holocaust denial, as well as being possible informants:
The Council for the National Interest ("CNI") is a 501(c) organization in the United States advocating a "new direction for U.S. Middle East policy." With its sister organization the Council for the National Interest Foundation ("CNIF") it works to educate about and promote what it describes as "even handed policies by the U.S. government".[1] Founded in 1989 by former Congressmen Paul Findley (R-IL) and Pete McCloskey (R-CA), the Council describes itself as "the only organization of its kind striving against tremendous odds to reverse the U.S. government's one-sided, one-way Middle East policies."[1] CNI has been especially critical of the state of Israel and lobby groups that support it, like the American Israel Public Affairs Committee ("AIPAC"). The Economist wrote in 2007 that CNI "even bills itself as the anti-AIPAC."[2] It is especially critical of what it alleges is Israel's misuse of U.S. taxpayer's money to fund activities in violation of international law,[3] monitoring the use of U.S. taxpayer funds by Israel in the West Bank and in Gaza.[1]
Ambassador (ret.) Robert V. Keeley is CNI's chair and former United States Ambassador David Newton is its vice chair.[4] Alison Weir is the organization's president and former Central Intelligence Agency officer Philip Giraldi is Executive Director.[5]
Look!  It's Brian Mcmanus' buddy Alison Weird!  How cozy.   Holocaust Denial comes later:

Controversy
On March 28, 2000, Pete McCloskey, the chairman of CNI at the time, gave the keynote address on the subject of the Anti-Defamation League and free speech at a conference organized by the Holocaust denial organization Institute for Historical Review.[46][47] When McCloskey ran in the 2006 Republican Party primary for congress, there was a public controversy over exactly what he said about The Holocaust at the event.[48][49][50] McCloskey was endorsed by the San Francisco Chronicle[51] and the Los Angeles Times[52] despite the controversy, but lost the nomination by a 2-1 margin.[53]
A website pimping Holocaust denial/anti Jew sources copy/pasta's Evdokas' thinly veiled fishing attempt at IMC.  People didn't bite.  It didn't help other IMC members thought Evdokas concerns were pure faggotry:
 Victory ! victory at riseup.net
Mon Dec 6 12:27:04 PST 2010


I'm not bothered. I'm thankful to not know who did it. I agree with the
person's decision.
Portland IMC functions on a trust plus consensus model which allows
actions like this to be taken in a timely fashion. It is understood that
people are trusted to not take controversial actions without consulting
first. It seems obvious that most people in the IMC network (if not all)
would support this action, so I don't see this person as intentionally
violating any trust. Even if a person misjudges popular sentiment, actions
like these can be undone if necessary. It could be removed or put to a
vote for removal if someone disagreed. But I don't think they do. Looks
like a non-issue to me.
Solidarity,
Victory!
Portland IMC
Moar mirrors:
 
 mark burdett  mark at indymedia.org
Mon Dec  6 12:39:56 PST 2010
 > > I'd like to extend my thanks to whoever it was among us who took the
> > initiative to create an indymedia mirror to wikileaks, here:
> > http://wikileaks.indymedia.org/ 
 
By the way, wikileaks.indy is currently just a DNS pointer, not an 
actual mirror.  Hundreds of mirrors were setup in the past couple days, 
see http://wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html

I did a geoip lookup on all the publicly listed mirrors and found 
they're pretty well distributed, with germany, US and france leading the 
"mirror count":
DE 143 US 117 FR 74
NL 34 SE 21 GB 17 ES 12
NO 9 CA 7 CZ 7 CH 6 FI 4 LU 4
DK 3 JP 3 PL 3 RU 3 BG 2 PA 2 SK 2
AT 1 AU 1 BE 1 EE 1 IN 1 MD 1 MY 1 NZ 1 PT 1 RO 1 UA 1 UY 1

--mark B.



"Hundreds of mirrors were setup in the past couple days,"<  LOL
 
Good luck finding everyone who put up those mirrors, Evdokas!!!!!

 Where is this going?

A week later everyone finds out when Evdokas, after conflabbing with NATFED cult victim Mitchel Cohen , decides THE JEWS are behind wikileaks/Assange.  At least Evdokas starts spamming links saying so on cyprus IMC and thinks it's funny:
[Imc-cyprus] Mossad vs. CIA, Asange, complexities
Petros Evdokas petros at cyprus-org.net
Sun Dec 12 23:11:12 PST 2010

Recently during a discussion with Mitchel Cohen of the Greens in New 
York where we were discussing the dogmatism we see around us and need 
that some people have for "absolute", "black or white" positions 
surrounding Wikileaks, he said:

"...I can see that some people -- many people? -- can't follow
complexity and need to have their politics spoonfed."

Unfortunately, that is very true. Complexity is built right into this 
whole issue.

Even as we support Wikileaks, we are still able to worry, explore, 
investigate the behaviours, actions and words of Julian Assange in light 
of his personal reputation in the Movement, and also to explore the 
political ramifications of the Wikileaks cable releases. Political 
thought can not be cornered into George Bush's worldview expressed as 
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

The Wilileaks secret cable releases brought up a whole new arena of 
political concerns: who is benefitting from all this? Are there any 
intelligence agencies involved in this story?

It's all about complexities. There's a lot of discussion about whether, 
in addition to promoting freedom of information, Wikileaks might be 
benefitting the policies of Zionist Israel.

If you're interested in more about this twist, the possible connection 
between Wikileaks and Israeli Zionists, there's already plenty of stuff 
being published about it. As usual, it's hard to separate from among the 
sources/authors who is a credible anti-zionist as opposed to a 
jew-hating racist, so here's one that's easy:

Here, Zbigniew Brzezinski is not naming Mossad, he might as well be if 
you read his recent interview about Wikileaks. Here's an excerpt:

"ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: It's not a question of worry. It's, rather, a 
question of whether WikiLeaks are being manipulated by interested 
parties that want to either complicate our relationship with other 
governments or want to undermine some governments, because some of these 
items that are being emphasized and have surfaced are very pointed.

And I wonder whether, in fact, there aren't some operations 
internationally, intelligence services, that are feeding stuff to 
WikiLeaks, because it is a unique opportunity to embarrass us, to 
embarrass our position, but also to undermine our relations with 
particular governments."
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/government_programs/july-dec10/weakileaks2_11-29.html


And an astounding story, just surfacing now:
"WikiLeaks 'struck a deal with Israel' over diplomatic cables leaks"
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/12/07/18665978.php
[please note the discrepancy in the above story, there is NO Israeli 
Embassy in Beirut.]

Netanyahu and Assange praising each other:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/wikileaks-founder-netanyahu-believes-expose-will-aid-mideast-peace-1.328380

Anti- Israel author and editor Gordon Duff, a Marine Vietnam veteran, 
and Senior Editor at Veterans Today who is very vocal about 9/11 Truth 
and the Mossad connection, is having a field day over these revelations

Enjoy:

"BUSTED!! WIKILEAKS STRUCK A DEAL WITH ISRAEL OVER CABLE LEAKS"
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/08/wikileaks-struck-a-deal-with-israel-over-cable-leaks/

"GORDON DUFF: BUSTED – WIKILEAKS WORKING FOR ISRAEL"
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/08/gordon-duff-busted-wikileaks-working-for-israel/

Petros
This was spammed on several listserves including the group's sekrit one:
[pdx911truth] Mossad vs. CIA, Asange, complexities
Sunday, December 12, 2010 11:11 PM
From:
To: "imc-cyprus" <imc-cyprus@lists.indymedia.org>, imc-eastern-mediterranean@lists.indymedia.org, "KaliMerhaba" <kalimerhaba_HellenoTurkish_Community@yahoogroups.com>, ".stwc_cy" <stwc_cy@yahoogroups.com>, "Union of Palestinian" <belal.abdelhai@gmail.com>, pdx911truth@yahoogroups.com
Evdokas wrote: "Enjoy:  "BUSTED!! WIKILEAKS STRUCK A DEAL WITH ISRAEL OVER CABLE LEAKS" "

Yep, THE JEWS are behind Wikileaks.  We should have known.  And Veterans Today is such a credible source.

Wait:

 Blakeney published a review of Jonathan Kay's Among The Truthers written by his academic mentor Anthony J. Hall on his online column in something called Veteran's Today which bills itself as a "journal of military and foreign affairs."

And what is this innocuously named "journal" about?
A debunking of Veteran's Today by someone called Jon Revere (a truther but his article is well researched) found that:
Quote:
What will you find on "Veterans Today"? Well, everything has pretty much one focus: BLAME ISRAEL FOR EVERYTHING. 70-90% of the articles on this website go back to Israel.
And who are some of Blakeney's co-columnists on Veteran's Today? Well, one of them is Dr Ingrid Rimland Zundel, wife of Ernst Zundel, Canada's leading Holocaust denier. Mrs. Zundel in a recent column entitled The Munchousen Syndrome (actually the condition is called Münchhausen syndrome) is pretty upfront about her attitudes about Jews and the Holocaust.

Quote:
Years before I met and married Ernst Zundel and, thus, became a Holocaust Denier – because this malady, Denial-of-the-Holocaust, can be infectious, in case you didn’t know! – I made my living as a kiddie shrink: in academic parlance, an Educational Psychologist.

In that capacity, I learned about a malady, malingering, that was quite prevalent with kids who tried to get out of producing respectable work. Their energy went into fibbing – and were they ever good at it! I was amazed at how deep-rooted and resistant to reason their skillful fibbing was.

Therefore, I decided to study how I could cure this malady, and found it had a name. It’s called the Munchousen Syndrome.

Once Ernst and I became a team, he asked me to do a monograph on “The Impact of Words on the Mind,” by which he hoped to neutralize the virulent character assassination of an entire people, the Germans who fought World War II, unleashed on them sans mercy by another set of bipeds, the Victims of the Holocaust. The latter try to run down every last “War Criminal” on earth. The former seem without defenses.
Nice, huh? The Jews have a "syndrome" that causes them to lie about the Holocaust. It also makes you wonder about Frau Zundel's educational credentials (she can't even spell Münchausen, a well-known psychological syndrome, correctly )and the editorial policies of this "journal" that Blakeney is associated with.
 Mmmm...Veteran's Today is another Holocaust Denial outlet and they're not softcore about it at all.
 The Jon Revere Blog content mirrored HERE for lulz.

The Southern Poverty Law Center chimes in on Veterans Today:

Buyer Beware: Veterans Today and its Anti-Israel Agenda

Posted in Anti-Semitic, Extremist Propaganda by Evelyn Schlatter on January 6, 2011
Veterans Today (VT) is a website that bills itself as a “military veterans and foreign affairs journal.” And, indeed, many of its contributors are military veterans or veterans’ advocates from across the political spectrum. VT also offers some information about veterans’ benefits (lifted from the Veterans’ Administration) and links to home and other loans for vets.
But start reading the posts, and you’ll find something else entirely: myriad claims that there was a conspiracy behind 9/11 (Israel orchestrated it, in cahoots with the American government), that the American government is a puppet (of Israel), that the Holocaust never happened or was greatly exaggerated (Jews made it up to manipulate non-Jews), and, most recently, that Julian Assange, the man behind Wikileaks, is a pawn (of Israel).
Notice a theme?
Gordon Duff, the senior editor and chairman of the board at VT, is a prolific proponent of these anti-Israel conspiracy theories, including the Wikileaks claims. Though he does occasionally write on issues and policies that directly affect American veterans (he claims to be a Marine Vietnam veteran), most of his ammo is reserved for churning out articles that claim 9/11 was a U.S./Israel conspiracy and that Israel controls the U.S. government. According to Duff and VT contributors like author and attorney Jeff Gates, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), a civil rights watchdog group, and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a lobbying group, are Zionist-controlled fronts for Israeli intelligence operations.
In December, Duff claimed that “insiders at the ADL” admitted that Israel was behind Wikileaks, perhaps a slam at an ADL piece a few days earlier. In that article, the ADL pointed out that many of the conspiracy theories about Israel and Wikileaks “are being promulgated by … anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist” Gordon Duff. Marilyn Mayo, a director at the ADL Center on Extremism, told Hatewatch that Duff did not speak to anyone at the ADL and, like other conspiracy theorists, he “makes information up and presents it as the truth.” Indeed, Duff claimed that the ADL website was “loading up with warnings and attacks” defending Wikileaks and Assange. But the ADL’s website claims nothing of the sort and Duff provides no evidence that the “ADL source” he says he is quoting actually exists.
Duff’s anti-Israel articles get a lot of play, and are often quoted or linked to on other conspiracy sites as well as on white nationalist sites like Stormfront and White News Now. Indeed, the anti-Israel bent on VT can slide pretty quickly into overt anti-Semitism. J.B. Campbell, a self-proclaimed founder of the militia movement, wrote this past November on VT: “Since Jews control every important aspect of our lives through banking, finance, law, war, food & drugs and entertainment, we are literally floating on a reservoir of truth blocked by a dam of lies… . The Jews have poisoned our minds for a long time, certainly for all the time that we’ve been alive.” Campbell also claims that Jews control the Federal Reserve and the US Army.
VT has its supporters — check the comments (some virulently anti-Semitic) on any of its articles — but also detractors. A contributor at Burn Pit, a discussion list maintained by American Legion members, refuses to comment or answer questions about articles at VT. In early 2010, the blogger said that, according to VT, “9-11, just like everything else that has happened in the past 50 years to the detriment of the US and the world, is nothing short of the fauilt [sic] of an international cabal of Jews, which is my second reason for never replying to VT nonsense.”
American military veterans looking for information about veterans’ issues and a more balanced take on foreign affairs — as opposed to what looks like an endless stream of Israel-bashing mixed in with some bona fide anti-Semitism — would be better-served looking elsewhere.

Important to note Evdokas DID NOT share his Wikileaks/Jews lulz with the main IMC list.
Maybe Evdokas knew they would be unimpressed with his Holohoax Veteran's Day links as everyone else was.

In summary Evdokas, butthurt IMC users wouldn't share doxx on the Wikileaks love, so he spammed Wikileaks was a JEW operation.

Evdokas was right about one thing: retaliation from imperial forces.  Easy to guarantee if you're a STRATFOR informer!


Update:8/6/2013

EVDOKAS EXPOSES THIS BLOG AS WORK OF MOSSAD LOL

Monday, May 7, 2012

SCAM: Cult Leader Tarpley Pimped on Indymedia

Cuz anytime a cult leader is pimped, it's a SCAM.

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To indymedia's credit this lolarticle was composted but not before an astute reader noted the obvious:


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Tarpley used to be affiliated with the Lyndon Larouche campaign. It's worth reading enough about them to know how to recognize someone from the Larouche group -they tend to consider climate change to be a plot by British royalty, and they nearly always are predicting collapse in about three months.

 http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Library.WTarpley


Moron Webster Tarpley HERE