Portland Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Invade Local Libraries

The website of this lol worthy chapter of Richard Gage's AETruth scam is apparently hasn't been updated since this group was outed as a front for the Portland Truth Alliance.  Still dated January, the site announces plans for a tin foil invasion of local libraries:

Posted on January 24, 2012

Free Library Presentations of “9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out“
“9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out” Showings
Library                                Address                                     Date                  Time            
Belmont Library                 1038 SE Cesar Chavez Blvd     Tues, Aug 14      6-8pm
Beaverton Main Library     12375 S.W. Fifth St.                  Thurs, Aug 23     6-8pm
This 90-minute documentary, from Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, presents the science-based evidence for explosive demolition of the Twin Towers and Building 7 on September 11, 2001. The presentation is targeted to a general audience – a technical background is not required. Free DVDs of the video will be handed out during the Q&A following the screening.  Please bring along friends who are not already familiar with the evidence behind the tower collapses on 9/11.
For more information call 503-481-8692 or email PortlandAE911Truth@yahoo.com.

For a 15-minute introduction to the video visit: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

The contact number, 503-481-8692, is connected to a company called "Levetate", apparently owned by the perennially clueless David Fura:

Contacting Levetate Design Systems

www.levetate.com/company/address.html

Contact Us. LEVETATE Design Systems, Inc. 4229 SW 48th Place Portland, Oregon 97221 USA. (503) 481-8692. info@levetate.com

The website says:

 LEVETATE Design Systems is an EDA Company developing hardware verification technology that addresses the problem of ensuring correct RTL designs.

For a supposedly cutting edge tech company that's been around since the '90's, the tech community has virtually nothing to say about Levetate.  And the company address is just a house in da hood:

Another scam?  Well what's one moar with these clowns?  

JREF LINKS THE LOVE!

hahaha that site is awesome. Good find!

-JREF member
cjnewson88
Muse 

Epic news of the day:  JREF member Scott Summers sends us link love:

Scott Sommers

Master Poster

Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance

---

I just found this. What do you make of it?
http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com

 Kool.

Summers apparently found this blog Googling frank morales church 911; Frank Morales is certainly a creep to look out for; he's most probably the group's connection to Scientology.


Some comments are equally epic:

Orphia Nay

Penguilicious Spodmaster.

Tagger 

"Like most cultlike organizations, the group doesn't come out and say what it's up to to newbies, because it's hard to get new helping hands saying "we're a collection of right-wing wolves in Democratic clothing here to push a Nazi friendly agenda"."

I don't care if these guys are debunkers or yet another group of splitters from the TM, that there is one of the best descriptions of truthers I've ever seen!

Others less so:

Brainster

Philosopher

 Probably a Jenny Sparks website; (s)he was well-known for obsessing over Sara Lamadrid and appears to have been located in Portland.

How to explain Jenny Sparks... wow. First off, she took her internet nic from a comic book character. She was rumored to be a transsexual, but to be honest, the before picture that people posted looked reasonably attractive and the after picture was... not so hot. She belonged to the Truth Action folks, which meant that she spent more time criticizing other people in the Truth Movement than she did explaining her own theories.

She was vile; back when James and I were on Haloscan she was the first Truther we banned from commenting, and it was only with great reluctance.

As far as I know, she has not been active in the Truth Movement for 2-3 years.

Odd this user quickly assumes one of the groups Sp's was involved.  Undebunker-ish; a Google search of Jenny Sparks Sara Lamadrid include links to Craig Lazo's predictable hit pieces and ironically a blog post from a blog "Brainster" claims credit for in his sig:

My new blog: Mockupy Wall Street.
1960s Comic Book Nostalgia
Visit the Screw Loose Change blog.

But no links of "Sparks" person saying anything about Lamadrid. Wonder where he got that idea.  (If this is the same Arizona visitor who viewed Ozzy's profile, it's even weirder.  And the first profile this visitor looked at was... Sara Lamadrid.  Hmmm. Smells like projection.   Anyone who really has questions can email.)

OTOH, if the Screw Loose Change blog archives are an indication, "Brainster" has been following the tinfoil brigade for so long no wonder he's confused. He's also confused about Occupy Wall Street with his new "I hate the 99%" blog:

This faggot's name seems to be "Pat" .  Hysterically, after over a 170 posts, his "new" blog has no followers:

The 99% aren't going away.  Get used to it. 
Then someone bawls we're being mean to  Unsecured Coins. Maybe he shouldn't have thrown in with conspiracy cultards.

A clueless post:

Oystein

Philosopher

 I feels like infighting - not of interest to outside readers, really.
To the extemt that the Portland groups are being accused of being con operations, with a financial motive, I am incredulous that there is enough money in this to sustain the effort over 6-8 years now. At least not the part where members are lured in. What financial difference does it make if they have 50 instead of 30 members?

 Fraud is of interest to everyone:
 
 http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com/2012/05/scam-gage-back-in-portland.html

Like most cultlike operations, there's high turnover.  The fact they've been around "6-8 years" indicates money in it; why else do it or keep it going? This group is one of many and they're all filling cult coffers. The so called "events" are directed at the general public, with the hope of getting more members or cash whether the people become members or not.  Ergo the idea of warning the general public about the group shouldn't be too hard to grasp.  Derp.

Maybe s/he isn't JREF material. 

Odd Oystein would dismiss criticism of cult operations with the cult-speak "infighting".  By that logic nothing Wise Beardman has to say is of interest to anyone outside of Scientology.  Unless you want to warn people not to get involved in Scientology.

 Regarding  conspiracies, the Southern Poverty Law Center disagrees:

Many used the conference to reinforce their beliefs and bond with others who are convinced that the federal government, corporations, Jews, Communists, the Catholic Church, secret societies like the Illuminati, shadow governments or even space aliens are working to do something very bad to the rest of us. Very often, the conspiracy-mongers agreed that these evil forces want to create a “New World Order” bent on crushing America, its people and their remaining freedoms.

Some of the conference theorizing was benign, focused on such topics as the giant structures of gold that Jose Escamilla said his “vector symbology” studies had found on the moon, or the “gentle” bigfoot creatures that Kewaunee Lapseritis said had stayed secret through their connection with extraterrestrials and UFOs.

 But in other cases, it seemed more serious.

“For some people, conspiracy gatherings and conventions are merely entertainment from the day-to-day harshness of a difficult world,” said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State at San Bernardino. “But for others, conspiracy theories, gatherings and websites are something more. It’s part of a folklore by which they identity themselves and organize their beliefs. It helps funnel anger and skepticism, but also provides order to a world that is oftentimes frustrating and confusing. 

“For the last group of people — those on a hair-trigger either from cognitive impairment or because they’re extraordinarily angry — these conspiracy theories can be a bridge and catalyst to a more violent response.”

Considering the myriad Nazi sympathies this group has, exposing their attempts to suck more people into their con is hardly "infighting".  Maybe Oystein wants to wait until someone gets killed.  We'd rather not.

Coming soon: Oystein wonders why we need a Justice Department.  After all, the actions of criminals are not of interest to readers outside law enforcement, right?

Ends with moderate lulz:

Macgyver1968

Master Poster

Originally Posted by Scott Sommers

What do you make of it?

Johnny from Airplane!: Why, I can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl...

Pterodactyl's are Awesome.

 JREF:  8/10

Read more:

http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com/2012/04/recent-scam-pushed-by-group.html

http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com/2012/03/cult-page.html

http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com/2012/03/my-portland-truth-alliance-experience.html

 http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com/2012/03/sps.html


Regarding a special request from a fan:

 12th June 2012, 05:59 PM 

BaaBaa

Semi-literate hench-person

I call "Cass Sunstein And The Sneaky Jews" for band name!

Your wish is our command:

The best in Conspiracy Rap...or so we hear.  Looking for more albums covers...cuz we gotta keep tabs on those "Sneaky Jews", yo.

SCAM: Gage back in Portland

Dropping all pretense of being different groups, David Fura posts on the 'omg  sexist racist jew haters' front listserve that conspiracy conman Richard Gage will be visiting Portland May 26th, pimping moar tinfoil riddled snake oil from his conspiracy cash cow  non profit org:

Richard Gage Back in Town May 26th

Wed May 16, 2012 7:26 pm

David Fura <dallenfura@...>

dallenfura

 Hi All,

As some of you may already know, Richard Gage is back in town on Saturday, May 26th.  The show is at the Clinton Street Theater from 8 - 10 pm.  Richard will be showing the final version of "Experts Speak Out," the new AE911Truth video.  The video itself is supposed to run 90 minutes and then there will be Q&A.  Tickets are $10 donation suggested.  After the show we are walking down the block to the Savoy Tavern for some R&R&R.  The event poster is attached.

Join us if you can and please pass this notice to your own networks.  This is much appreciated.

If you are looking for something to do and would like to help I have also attached the flyer 4-up for the event.  We will be handing out these flyers downtown at various times over the weekend (Saturday Market, Salmon St. Fountain, Pioneer Square, etc.).  Let me know if you'd like to help with that (I will bring flyers for this).  Of course, if you want to hand out flyers on your own that would be greatly appreciated as well.  The national AE911Truth organization is sponsoring this event and will reimburse all printing costs (make all copies black & white).

Thanks for any help, hope to see you there, and happy truthing!!!

Dave

2 of 2 File(s)

4up.pdf

ESO 8.5X11 SCREENING TOUR POSTER editable.pdf

"Happy truthing"?  Fura sounds like a 14 year old anime fangirl.
Poster:

From Clinton Street Theater website:

9/11: Explosive Evidence Experts Speak Out

2012.

General Admission: $10
Shows May 26th at 8 PM
Runtime: 90 minutes

Doors open at 7:30. General Admission $10. Students and Seniors $5.

This is a presentation by Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth: Re-examining the destruction of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers.

Live guest appearance by Richard Gage, AE911Truth founder with an audience Q & A.

No updates on Goldman's AE Portland listserve or Evdokas' listserves. Either they're not bothering because everyone knows who their nazi loving friend is, or they have bigger problems.

And, JUST IN CASE ANYONE FORGOT, Richard Frager reminds them on the 25th:

Fri May 25, 2012 9:12 pm
Richard Frager <science@...>
falseflagusa

ENGINEERS POINT TO EVIDENCE OF SCIENTIFIC FRAUD, CALL FOR INDEPENDENT 9/11 INVESTIGATION

Documentary World Premiere-Final Edition

"9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out"

May 26th, 8:00 PM

Clinton Street Theater

2522 SE Clinton at the corner of 26th and Clinton

Portland, OR

AE911Truth

Image from Waldron's weeklyintercept.blog

A new 9/11 documentary featuring dozens of experts in architecture, engineering, and other fields has been released and is coming to the Clinton Street Theatre in Portland, OR on Saturday, May 26th at 8:00PM. Confidently contradicti ng official US government explanations, these experts argue that the World Trade Center Twin Towers and WTC Building 7 (WTC 7) were not brought down on September 11, 2001, by the fires ignited by the jetliner impacts, but rather by explosive controlled demolition. The 43 architects, engineers, physicists, chemists and others interviewed in the film represent more than 14,000 concerned citizens and 1,700 architects and engineers from around the world who have signed a petition demanding a new, independent investigation. The film details scientific forensic evidence that the group claims was omitted or misrepresented by the official reports. Official reports blame the unprecedented destruction of all three modern skyscrapers on fires and on the removal of insulation by the jetliner impacts. No jetliner crashed into WTC 7.

The documentary will be introduced by David Fura, a local supporter of the group that released the film, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (A E911Truth). The film is being introduced in 30 cities on a tour of the US by the film's director/producer, Richard Gage, AIA who also founded and directs the nonprofit organization AE911Truth, based in Berkeley, California.

The 95-minute documentary features cutting-edge forensic evidence from forty-three technical experts, who expose the fraudulence of the NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) reports about the destruction of all three WTC high-rises. These include the third-worst structural failure in modern history: the symmetrical free-fall destruction of 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11/01.

The startling conclusions brought forth by these experts have profound implications.

Gage declares, “The official story about the attacks of September 11, 2001, falls apart when you look squarely at the facts, omitted in the o fficial reports, and apply fundamental scientific principles to interpret them. After nearly ten years, don’t we all need and deserve to know the truth?”

According to Gage, the film includes interviews with family members of 9/11 victims, who explain why they are still not happy with the answers they've been given about what really happened on 9/11: "The family members in this film exhort their fellow citizens to join them in seeing what these experts have to say."

Several of the film's experts bear PhD's, including renowned biologist Lynn Margulis, now deceased. Margulis was a National Medal of Science winner who, along with the other experts in this film, describes unscientific aspects of the US government's studies of the engineering failures at the World Trade Center. The complete, symmetrical failure of WTC 7 was especially baffling to engineers at the time. According to experts interviewed in the film, the official reports by the Federal Emergency Man agement Agency (FEMA) and later by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) assume their own conclusions, exclude relevant evidence, and failed to draw reasonable conclusions from the evidence that was examined. Dr. Margulis for instance discusses how the scientific method should have been applied to the evidence of high-temperature incendiaries found in the WTC dust by an international group of scientists.

Regarding WTC Building 7, materials engineer Kathy McGrade says in the film, "The symmetry is the smoking gun."

Structural engineer Ron Brookman notes: "The destruction of evidence was a criminal act in itself.... It was already being carted away and destroyed when the FEMA investigators got there about a month after September 11."

The cross-country tour began in San Diego and Beverly Hills May 21 and 22 and ends in San Francisco in July 2012.

Visit 911ExpertsSpeakOut.org now to view the Trailer and see the Premiere Schedule.

Contact for Info/Interviews: Tania Torres, eso-info@... 925-939-9002

And the results are in!  How convincing was this cult fundraiser?  According to figures sent by the group, 100% success!

Show of hands results	Before	After	Reduction
Believe fires brought down buildings:	5	0	100%
Unsure:	23	0	100%
Believe in explosive controlled demolition:	74	102
Number of people who attended presentation: 102

Uh huh.  100% of attendees were converted.  Seriously?  Bullshit.
The AETruth/Richard Gage "theory" is a controlled demolition.  But the faggot who reminded the group of the event, Richard Frager, believes in the mini-nuke conspiracy theory:

Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:33 pm
Richard Frager <science@...>
falseflagusa
World Premier of "30 Proofs of Mini-Nukes in WTC" Tonight - Wed. A
Tonight the World Premier of "30 Proofs of Mini-Nukes in the WTC."

This is a power-point presentation from Dr. William Deagle this past
June 2007 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

It will be shown at Laughing Horse books, 12 N.E. 10th St. from 9 to
10:05, it is
exactly 65 minutes long. Donations will be accepted for Laughing Horse
books.

This is a very timely showing considering the terror drill/war game
"Noble Resolve" is going on in Portland this week. This is be a chance
to brush up on your nuclear physics as well as learn how your
tax money is being spent.

Please be there!

Or Waldron's assertion at Fetzer's pay to play blogspot the other, other group HE IS IN NO WAY INVOLVED WITH  don't think there were planes at all:

Intercept June 30, 2011 12:23 PM

Almost all of the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance has been successfully poisoned by this distraction.

As a result, their peripheral involvement in other issues like the war, homeland security, JTTF and Fukushima compete as the "elephant in the room" and credibility drops below Bachmann's IQ.

Despite successfully compromising Portland's most visible 9/11 Truth group, we can only be grateful for the split in the national movements over the years that have resulted in more disciplined, forensic study.

Fetzer replies, with copious spam from Craig Lazo's website(s):

Jim FetzerJune 30, 2011 2:46 PM

Why is that? I know Rob Balsamo and have confidence in Pilot's for 9/11 Truth. Here's a link to their home page, which includes some of the studies for impossible speed found at http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ I also recommend John Lear's affidavit on the Scholars forum (search at http://911scholars.ning.com) and Pilot's "9/11 Intercepted", which both discuss this in some detail.

How can the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance not have been impressed by the impossible entry of the plane into the building or the fact that, in these videos, the plane passes through its whole length into the building in the same number of frames it passes through its whole length in air, which you can verify for yourself using single-frame advance? Look at the Hezarkhani footage:

http://killtown.blogspot.com/search/label/No-Planes

Do you really think this is a plane colliding with a massive, 500,000 ton steel and concrete building? Do you understand that it is intersecting with eight (8) floors, consisting of steel trusses connected to the core columns at one end and external support columns on the other, which were filled with 4-8" of concrete? At 208' across, we are talking about an acre of concrete apiece--and eight (8) of them!

http://killtown.911review.org/wtc-gallery.html

What do you imagine would happen if a Boeing 767 had hit just one of these floors suspended in space? We know the damage that can be done by a tiny bird weighing a few ounces when hit by a commercial carrier. What about an acre of concrete on a steel truss? I am having a hard time imagining why any of you would suppose the laws of aerodynamics, engineering and physics were suspended on 9/11.

Notice, too, the relative spacing of the narrow windows, which were eighteen inches wide with the support columns separated by a meter, so they were less than 50% of the space between them. And of course the vertical space between floors was windowless. Which means that much less than 50% of the facade was made of glass. The plane should have crumpled and dropped to zero velocity.

While the engines might have been expected to enter the buildings, the wings and the tail should have broken off, with bodies, seats, and luggage falling to the ground. None of that happened. So I think that the Portland Alliance should accept the weight of the evidence where Pilots and John Lear have already confirmed the impossible speed and the other indications of fakery are even more impressive.

So I am at a loss as to why the Portland Alliance should have been "poisoned" by this question. Since videos that show impossible events have to have been faked on way or another--by altering the footage using CGIs or video compositing; or by using a fake plane, such as a hologram rather than a real one--we know the videos were faked. I hope you will tell me more, because these proofs are solid.

Waldron scurried back to his marginally better blog to write a post titled:  "Reply to James Fetzer Over No Plane Nonsense". Waldron and Fetzer indentify this group as "Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance".  So that would be the same group promoting the AEtruth/Gage event.  It's a reasonable assumption that members of the group attended the event(including Richard Frager) making up some of the 102 attendees.
Does that mean they all dropped their "mini-nuke"/ planeless fakery faggotry?   
If they don't, then someone is lying about event attendance figures and what they mean.  


But maybe at $10 a pop> X 100 = $1000.00, it was worth it.  Should keep them all in tinfoil for a while.  Let's see how many of those people actually join the listserves or continue to be fleeced by the group....

SCAM: Disclose.tv closed down

Disclose.tv closed down
Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:05 am

r coones <rcoones102@...>

rcoones10211

  http://www.disclose.tv/seized.html
 Disclose.tv closed by the Government. This was a video hosting website that had thousands of videos from all over the world. I think they would not play ball and so were shut down. Hilary Clinton was right "we are losing the information war"....now they are striking back.  Laws will be passed and they are serious about discrediting and tripping up the conspiracy theorists. Censorship next, and tactics on a level with the "War On Drugs" a suppressive and unfair persuit on a par with Chinas suppression of alternative information. Just Watch..
   You know...subersive information like 9/11, 7/7, conspiracy theories, UFO footage, euroscepticism, anti NWO information, patriot websites, oathkeepers and the like. The kind of information that true Patriots refer to trying to keep their Governments in line.

No it isn't, you paranoid faggots. Go to the main url; its still there in all it's tinfoil glory:

                        

Even the forum is still online:

                         

The US government  is unlikely to "take it down" because the server is in GERMANY:

Server Type:
Apache
IP Address:
87.230.55.33 ASN:
AS20773
IP Location:
Germany - Nordrhein-westfalen - Koeln - Host Europe Gmbh
Response Code:
200
Domain Status:
Registered And Active Website

Whois:

disclose.tv

Registrant:
         Uwe Braun info@futurebytes.de
        Futurebytes GmbH & Co.KG
        Innstrasse 71
        Passau, N/A  94036
        DE
        0049851988380
      
Domain Name: disclose.tv

Admin Contact:
         Uwe Braun info@futurebytes.de
        Futurebytes GmbH & Co.KG
        Innstrasse 71
        Passau, N/A  94036
        DE
        0049851988380
      
Technical Contact:
         HostEurope GmbH  info@hosteurope.de
        PERSON
        Hansestr. 109
        Koeln, UNKNOWN  51149
        DE
        +49-180546783-8
      
Billing Contact:
         Hostmaster Domainbilling  support@hosteurope.de
        Host Europe GmbH
        Welserstr. 14
        Koeln, N/A  51149
        DE
        0049220310450
      
   Record created on Jan 6 2007.
   Record expires on Jan 6 2013.

Whomever Uwe Braun is, looks like they set up the ZOMG SEIZED page to con moar dupes.

Also looks like Coones was in on the con.  Guess that means Coones get's his own page soon.


Protip: If you want people to think the New World Order has censored your website, make sure ALL urls redirect to the "seized" page.

Portland 911 Truth yahoo list

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Founded by Ginny Ross in 2007, (apparently unused until 2009) and bequeathed to Richard Frager sometime in 2010-2011, this yahoo list serve became the main public tin foil front for the group until mid Oct of 2012, when, on or around Oct 15th,  Frager deleted the group in the face of devastating criticism from Antifa over the group's racist connections.

Sorta ex -member Tim Calvert implies the group has been "suppressed" in Portland.  We have to assume this means they've adopted a private listserve model again.  It would be too much to hope that they actually went away.

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Comedy Gold: The Clumsy Attempt at Discrediting 9/11 Truth in Portland

STRATFOR butt monkey Waldron defends his cult/con conspiracy group. He spammed his whitewash everywhere; in less that 24 hours a title search yields 1,270 results in 0.09 seconds:
Many links are empty or dead, but the live ones lead here, mostly from tinfoil heavy sites.

Thank you, Waldron for your support and participation!

Once Portland 9/11 Meetup or the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance finish discrediting themselves, along comes a blog with anonymous posters aimed at discrediting all the 9/11 Truth groups in the Portland area. I first thought our efforts were a mere drop in the bucket, so I see this site as a back-handed compliment.

As I said before, there are people in the Portland area who are scared to death of an effective 9/11 Truth movement.

True to the standard motif of dismissing the 9/11 Truth movement as a bunch of Anti-Semites, most Portlanders who demand a new investigation of 9/11 are accused of having contact with members of a group branded as infamously anti-Semitic, the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance.

It's important to note how much time went into so many queries, searches, cuts and pastes for over 50 different pages. I can attest to their obsession with a look at the hit piece on yours truly. An individual or group (as expected, anonymously) sent me a link to my hit page because they really wanted me to see it:

http://pdx911truthalliancedramatica.blogspot.com/2012/03/jack-jt-waldron.html

Personally, my goal has been to bask in the spittle of Bill O'Reilly's beet red temper tantrum, but this will have to be the next best thing.

Still, it gets a bit sad when the page that is supposed be so devastating gets giddy over the fact that I am on STRATFOR's email list. There's also mention that, since I moved from Tucson to Portland a while ago, I had "Portland Based" in the blog description. But it gets worse. Somehow I mysteriously changed the verbiage of my blogger header description and removed the 'Portland based' reference. Ah ha! Got me! Curses, Waybackmachine! I had four short newsclips and 3-4 stories posted that were about Portland over the last year, but most of the posts are national or international news. Still, there are people apparently 'high-fiving' each other over unearthing my "shell game". I imagine by now you are starting to get the picture.

One thing useful about the hit piece is that it gives me an idea of exactly how much peripheral information remains as buoys floating around the interwebs. My previous business websites, other blogs that you see links to on this site, linked-in profiles, abandoned web sites, current and abandoned user profiles for various social networks are all conveniently listed on this page. Boring for everyone else.

Perhaps a more salacious issue is their contention that Portland AE911Truth did not change their meeting times to two hours earlier then the time the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance meets. They already did backflips over the fact we were meeting at the same day at the same coffee shop. Alas, our anonymous poster keeps missing the point. If two groups are meeting at the same place at the same time, no members of one group can really get much from the other group's meetings. An elementary inquiry would confirm that there were indeed two meetings going on at the same time. Times were staggered so those who wished to attend both meetings could do so. I sometimes like to sit in on the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliances meetings. That's what Senator McCarthy would be frothing about.

Anyway, juvenile is not an overstatement. His page ends with:

WALDRON = LIAR, LIAR! PANTS ON FIRE!

Now, the part less funny. Here are quotes that are actionable for libel:

"no one Waldron was scamming with his "Portland based" 'voice of the revolution' bullshit knew how to find the domain"

-This statement implies that I am running a scam. Soliciting compensation for goods or services not rendered.

"Anyone else not working with racists would change the day and location. Of course this is all horseshit and Waldron is a liar."

- Accusation of falsely representing an organization.

WALDRON = LIAR, LIAR! PANTS ON FIRE!

- Suggests to the public that I am untrustworthy, especially on the playground.

"Looks like Waldron is another corporate intelligence informant, sucking STRATFOR cock"

-Implies directly that I am an intelligence asset, possibly for STRATFOR.

Welcome racists everywhere you meet them!

-Falsely accuses me of racism in a public format.

The poster seems to think his ass is covered by including the following statement at the bottom of the page:

"This Blog is a Work of Satire. Facts may be closer than they appear. "

Sorry, but no judge will buy that figleaf. The only thing protecting this blogger from liability is the truth, which means nothing is protecting this blogger from the liability incurred by his libelous actions.

J.T. Waldron

In other words:

BAAAAAWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Waldron is a bad cherry picker:

Welcome racists everywhere you meet them!

-Falsely accuses me of racism in a public format.

No, that was a suggested GROUP slogan:

The group's new slogan could be:

Think globally! Act Locally! Welcome racists everywhere you meet them!

Someone slap Waldron and tell him to stop being a whiny faggot.

STRATFOR: There's no "implying"; one of Waldron's email addys IS a STRATFOR contact; look it up: http://dazzlepod.com/stratfor/?email=theintercept.com

No one who was really as worried about COINTELPRO would give their personal email to a firm that took over work the CIA used to do.

HERP DERP

Maybe Waldron wants to cry in a corner with fellow STRATFOR alumni Petros.


The irony is a STRATFOR "subscriber/contributor" of a corporate intelligence firm pointing fingers at anyone and screaming COINTELPRO implied in the tags:

Labels: 9/11 Truth, Bill O'Reilly, COINTELPRO, Conspiracy Baiting, phony anti-semitism argument, Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance, propaganda

This does give cheap lulz though:

Now, the part less funny. Here are quotes that are actionable for libel

Oh the hypocrisy. Maybe Waldron should look up the work of Craig Lazo, Ginny Ross, Tim Titrud, Sara Lamadrid and Jennifer Wynhausen (among others) before whining "libel", unless Waldron wants the chickens to not just come home to roost, but to take the roost over by force: forget libel and think FRAUD.


Protip: Check out the history of conspiracy crazies you want to join BEFORE getting mixed up with them.

Also, don't lie about your associations and motives when asking people for MONEY.









The Comments: These say more than snarky ever could, but snark we will.....Waldron's blog attract a Prothink Nazifag telling everyone racism was invented in 1934 and Jews did 911:

joeblowApr 1, 2012 08:10 AM

Translation from the Hebrew Newspeak:

Racist = Kill the White Goyim. The Newspeak word "racist" was only invented (by the Bolsheviks) in 1934 (re Webster's Collegiate). They've gotten a lot of mileage out of that Newspeak word.

"The military knows that Israel did 911." - Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former director of studies at the US Army War College, Jewish himself.

"Antisemitism" - "It's a Trick, We Always Use It." (calling people "anti-Semitic")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUGVPBO9_cA


911 was made in Tel Aviv and Washington DC. Neither the governments nor the poor people of any Arab or Moslem country had the slightest thing to do with it except to serve as the fall guys, the patsies.

"911 - Missing Links"

http://www.911missinglinks.com/


Israel did 9/11 - ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5367

Thank you joeblow for making our point. Read joeblow's blog to understand the profound intellect behind his comment: http://edwsrt55.blogspot.com/

Historical note: Many group members, including Lazo, Wynhausen and Mcmanus, were known to be supporters of Prothink, the creators of the 911missinglinks website.

Another conspiracy tard weighs in, echoing "the JOOOS did it":

apeman2502Apr 1, 2012 02:24 PM

You guys may be 100% correct. The planning goes back to when the shovel first hit the dirt at the WTCs back in the mid 1960s. All contractors were jewish. Many building and fire code violations at WTCs I,II and 7 were glossed over by the New York Port Authority. The parties sneaking in the nanothermate are central. Although it should be obvious to all that they did not rig the entire complex in a few weekends. Look up journals from the late 1960s and forget your computer for a single afternoon. Then you will know. Otherwise, you don't know. Look for torn out pages. This preload was published in a few construction journals. I hoped for years that someone would look and report on their own.i documented the preset and banning the practice 40 years ago. I lost the stuff long before 9-11-2001. I also am half way around the world.

Photos from a camera sneaked into the Pentagon during the pre9-11 remodel feature details of the dropaway floor joists. Later photos show scarring from directional charges installed. Parts from a Global Hawk cruise missile, including an entire wing and most all of a SMASHED A-3 Skywarrior are present in the debris inside the pentagon, wingspan 66 feet, height 14 feet. The turbine rotor hub from the Global Hawk's engine are photoed beside a fireman's leg outside. Both hit at VERY high speed. The A-3 fired a rocket to insure penetration a split second before impact. See General Stubblebine's report.

Remember who Israel's boss is. Israel has no motive beyond simple theft. Freemasons and the Skull and Bones Society and Rhodes Scholars are her soldiers. The Knights of Malta's and jesuits' boss did not have diplomatic relations with the U.S. since Abe Lincoln broke them off.

My Portland Truth Alliance experience

Posted as a comment by Forrest at Portland indymedia. Valuable first person insight into how the group scam works:

My Portland Truth Alliance experience 05.Feb.2012 14:39

Forrest

Hope this isn't too long for Indymedia comments

Hi. I can tell people for a fact this so called Portland Truth group is running some kind of scam.

I was a liberal frustrated that Bush's story about 911 didn't add up and he was trying to stop an investigation. And it was being used as an excuse for military action. The truther groups had a point, but they seemed to be pushing stupid ideas and full of Alex Jones crazy people. I figured I'd try to get involved anyway and when I moved to Portland in 2008 tried contacting the Portland Truth Alliance.

They were friendly at first but cared more about telling me to "watch out" for some people than what street actions they were planning. Some of the things they said:

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Hello Forrest,

Thanks for writing. You may want to check out this information:

"We formed the September 11 Affinity Group in order to:
- help the radical and liberal sections of the Left to see that 9/11 Truth is a key element for successful campaigns, especially for those engaged in the Peace and Justice movement;
and,
- to participate within the 9/11 Truth movement in ways that allow us to confront, expose, oppose and hopefully neutralize Right-wing influences such as racism, sexism, homophobia, and their "evil sisters": applications that take the form of Jew-hating, Zionism, anti-Islam Crusade mongering, gay-bashing, male supremacy.

There's a bit about the September 11 Affinity Group here:
http://www.rethink911.org/
and here:
http://portland-or.net/911truth/
(Our pages are in the evolving stage)

Our email group archives are here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911truthportland/messages

"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/niemoeller.html


Petros
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Question; I emailed this other guy called Petros. He was saying all kinds of stuff like I had to worry about homophobia and stuff. Know what thats all about?

Yeah, try to see if I can swing the meetings. You guys do any research? I'm into the CIT stuff; I think they're on to something with the fly over.

Thanks
Forrest
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Petros is an left wing PC intolerant jerk. Most likely he is getting paid by the government to disrupt our effort. It is so obvious that it is almost comical.

Tim
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Whoops. Did I make a mistake siging up with his yahoo group? I thought it was the same group. He seems nice enough. We had some problems in the Bay too. Can make ya alittle paranoid and stuff.

BTW don't think I can make that meeting tonight unless being late is ok. Gotta job search on and stuff.

Forrest
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Petros took over the yahoo group we had. I do not know why but someone gave him the password and Petros starting censoring. The yahoo group is pretty much dead.

Tim
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so I unsubbed from Petros' group and he asked me why. That's when it got really strange:

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Yeah,
sorry, but I emailed lots of people from the list I got and one of them
said this isn't the real Portland 911 group and you hacked the list or
something.

Just got a job and I don't need drama and shit.

Forrest
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Hi Forrest,

Thanks for writing again.

There's plenty of information online and elsewhere about who I am and what I do. I'm sure you can piece it all together like any mature grown up.

You can look me up here if you like:
http://tinyurl.com/665kyx
or
link to www.google.com

Do you think I need the drama?
At least you could have had the decency to let me know that you're involved in other games and not taken up my time. Did I bother you or offend you in any way? No.

I have been totally open, available, and transparent to you. But you took my politeness and my eagerness to serve you as a licence to insult me.

Please reconsider. I prefer to have friends than enemies. But when you insult me for no reason, what must I do?

Please reconsider your stance toward me.
Thank you,
Petros
http://petros-evdokas.cyprus-org.net/Another-sort-of-Introduction.html

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Re: Fw: Petros is a total psycho dude!!!
forrest
Sorry meant to cc this got rushed. Really, watch out for this prick. See others like him.

Forrest

Forrest wrote:
> Sorry meant to cc this got rushed. Really, watch out for this prick.
> See others like him.
>
> Forrest
>
> --- On *Tue, 9/9/08, Forrest wrote:
>
> From: Forrest
> Subject: Fw: Petros is a total psycho dude!!!
> To: craig_pdx
>
>
> All I did was unsubscribe and he's talking about making enemies
> and shit!!!

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Re: Fw: Petros is a total psycho dude!!!
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
From:
"Ginny Ross"

To:
forrest
Cc:
oregontt, "warren pease"

You got that right... GR

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Re: Fw: Petros is a total psycho dude!!!

From:
"oregontt"

To:
Forrest
Petros is beyond psycho. Most likely he is being paid to disrupt.

Tim
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If Petros "took over the Yahoo group" and is "being paid to disrupt", WHY THE FUCK IS TIM STILL ON PETROS' LIST?

Images: props to Antifa
link to 1.bp.blogspot.com

Those email exchanges with the Portland Alliance were all the same week. But in 2011 Tim was still posting on the list after saying Petros stole it? (a search of oregontt confirms it's the same Tim) As Antifa discovered Petros was always a mod
link to 1.bp.blogspot.com

from http://fansofantifa.blogspot.com/

The Portland 911 Truth(?) Alliance is a bunch of lying bullshitters. Luckily I had to work the night they had their film thing and it was easy to make meetings. By the time it was the David Irving stuff came out that Tim Titrud was involved with. Which probably means Petros is involved too. They seem to have a close connection.

Whatever questions there were about 911 have been drowned out by crazies. But in the Portland Truth Alliance's case, there's something more than craziness. These people went out of their way to LIE about not being one group. Something always felt weird probably another reason I never tried to contact them again. Reading these comments recently confirmed it
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2011/09/410125.shtml?discuss#390178
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2011/09/410125.shtml?discuss#390198

Anyone else have freaky close encounters with this group? FFS stay away from these people. They're running a scam. Someone should investigate.

Forrest

Another post with correction:

Correction to my post "My Portland Truth Alliance experience" 12.Feb.2012 11:10
Forrest

I wrote:
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If Petros "took over the Yahoo group" and is "being paid to disrupt", WHY THE FUCK IS TIM STILL ON PETROS' LIST?

Images: props to Antifa
link to 1.bp.blogspot.com

Those email exchanges with the Portland Alliance were all the same week. But in 2011 Tim was still posting on the list after saying Petros stole it? (a search of oregontt confirms it's the same Tim) As Antifa discovered Petros was always a mod
link to 1.bp.blogspot.com

from http://fansofantifa.blogspot.com/

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The second link...proving Petros Evdokas and Tim Titrud are using the same email list years after telling people they think each other are agents or something... should be:
link to 3.bp.blogspot.com


Avoid this supposed "truth" group. Obviously they are lying to their members and the public about their associations and goals.

Protip: When scamming people, don't use the local indymedia website as a group promotional outlet.